Dikush te flase per Nicholas Berg!

Dikush te flase per Nicholas Berg!

Me vjen mire qe ne forum mundemi te flasim per te gjitha dhe t'i themi gjerat ashtu si i mendojme. Javes se shkuar hapem ate temen e nxehte per abuzimet ndaj irakeneve ne burgjet amerikane. I nxorrem fotografite dhe thame "Turp!". Por a nuk duhet te themi dhe mendojme ne te njejten menyre kur jane arabet ata qe kryejne krime te paimagjinueshme?
Por u bene dy dite qe bota flet per Nicholas Berg qe u ther si kecat per Kurban Bajram, por Albforumi thuajse nuk e permedi fare. Disa prej jush shkruan per te, e di, ju falenderoj.
Por ka nje standart te dyfishte ndermjet shume prej jush, qe disi justifikon kafsherine e Al Qaides. Une them, "secilit te veten", gjithashtu them, "kush vepron si vrasesit e Nick berg nuk meriton te jetoje". Ju do vazhdoni te pretendoni se nuk keni televizor ne shtepi?
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dark lord

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sa per temen,s'ka nevoje te perseris gjithe neverine,perbuzjen,percmimin,indinjimin,urrejtjen viscerale qe ndiej per minj halesh qe kryejne nje akt cnjerezor si ky me gjakftohtesine e nje krimineli te lindur,te zhveshur nga cdo dhembshuri,ndjenje,instikt,emocion human.
 

109UV

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kjo eshte teme per disertacion: "kollodoku ne politiken shqiptare"
 

abs

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dark lord mos i deformo fjalet Edi Rames te lutem, shif se ai zotnija qe ka fol pak me siper teje ja paska nigju fjalet me vemendje.
 

abs

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(me m thirr hall do mu bate ma shume qefi, po nejse, kjo asht pa ransi).
dhe per kte qe po flasim tani ne te dy, prap jemi jash teme, megjithate desha me te pyet a je i vetdijshem se cfare thote kjo thenje qe citove ktu; ...ju a lane mrena kollodokun ca femrave ene fmit e tyne dolen ka...ra... :rolleyes:
me cfare ka te beje kjo? me dobsine e femrave apo me trimrine e burrave? dhe kush jane fmite e atyre grave te para mese 500 viteve?


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kaq thelle?!
 

abs

nuk e di...
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cimo? ma perkthe pak kte t lutem.

masanej ti papagal je? qe merr fjal andej e i bjen knej pa i kalu pak neper trunin tand? e me nxjerr pershtypjen tande personale mbi ate qe degjon?


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dark lord

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pershtypja ime personale:Edi m'ka dhi tu qesh.osht rob i nolte fare! /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

ta perkthej me vone se ca do me thon"cimo",meqe s'qeke tirons. /pf/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 

D-J

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Fillimisht postuar nga Bendi:

Jam i zemeruar me presidentin qe na futi deri m*t deri ne gryke.
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Proper anglisht kerkon qe ti te jesh Swallowsee :lol: Ne fakt kur kisha parasysh pjesen e Trashe te publikut amerikan nuk kisha parasysh te dhjere. Po nejse ka shume si ty dhe jo vetem ne amerike. E tille ka qene propaganda e kesaj lufte.

Jo vetem kaq po ne Europe flitet se disa amerikane i perkasin tani besimit te AlQaidizmit, qe shpjegon fenomenet tokesore vetem me eksistencen e Al Qaides.

Shtypi britanik (me nje fjale europian) thote se Nick Berg ishte "the trustee" i nje firme ndertimore kontarata e se ciles ishte dhene nga Cheney. Me nje fjale trustee per vete Cheney.

Thua te jete kjo aresyeja per berje front page news nga bota ( me nje fjale amerika) dhe per mallengjimin tend? Do na duheshin 50000 forume te shprehim keqardhje per cdo Nick Berg.

p.s sepse jam dashuruar me veten time sdo te thote se nuk ndjej keqardhje per ty o Bend :thumbsup:
 

renea

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Thelle brenda ne shpirtin e tij Diku eshte akoma nje femije 10-vjecar, qe kerkon vemendje nga te gjithe.Keni degjuar ndonjehere per ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder)?
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blendiys

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Cuna!
Me duket sikur po dalim pak jashte teme,dhe kjo tregon dhe nje here kundershtimin me budallalleqe gje qe na karakterizon.(mendoja se ne vite dhe menyra e te diskutuarit alla Shqipetarce do ndryshonte,por nuk qenka e thjeshte).
Ketu diskutojme per nje 26 vjecar,emri pak rendesi ka,i cili ekzekutohet me ligjet e mesjetes dhe pa qene aktiv ne politike apo i veshur nen uniforme (sidoqofte barbarizmi nuk justifikohet).
Shume ngriten zerin sepse deri diku u fyen me termin e perdorur lidhur me Kurban Bajramin dhe nga ana tjeter heshtin kur degjojne funderrinat e botes tek ulerasin Allah dhe ne te njejten kohe i vene thiken ne fyt
atij qe neser mund te jete dhe ti.
Arijme deri aty sa tallim by*hen me njeri tjetrin duke shkembyer iroira dhe cinizma sikur te ishte 1 Prrilli duke harruar shpirtin e dikujt qe deri dje endej ne kaos per te gjetur pune>tmerr>vdekje.
Nuk dua te flas per Nicholas Berg...
..flas per jeten,ate qe zoti ma dha dhe vetem AI duhet te ma marre.
Kush je ti qe me gjykon nen fjalen e Allahut?
Kush ta dha te drejten ty "njeriu me perce" te me denosh mua sipas rregullave te Kuranit tend?
Cilen fe predikon ti?
 

Le_Routard

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Vrasja e tij ishte programuar dhe fale mediave ata kriminel ja arriten qellimit, friksimi i nje opinionit publik dhe diferencimi me i madh ndermjet dy boteve te ndara nga feja myslymane dhe te krishter.

Keta kriminel dalin si mbrojtesit e arabeve, duke shtrir ndikimin e tyre mbi boten myslymane, fitojn rrespekt nga dhuna dhe krimet.

Rreagimi i vendeve te civilizuara, neveria, perbuzja e urrejtja qe ndjejm te gjithe para nje akti te till na shtyn te fusim ne nje kallup te tere ata qe besojn ne Allah, dhe kjo eshte pikerisht ajo qe duan keta kriminel. Duan qe vendet e civilizuara te hyjn ne konflikt me arabet/myslymanet ne pergjithesi dhe ata te dalin si heroj, si luftetar trima qe sju ben syri terrt nga Amerika...
 

FALKO

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Mediat ketu ne Itali thane qe ai e njihte nje prej ekzekutoreve te tij (ishin shoke universiteti kur ky irakeni merrte leksione pilotimi ne USA) edhe se lidhjet e tij me Al-Qhaeda nuk jane shume te qarta. Para se te humbiste gjurmet e te gjendej ne nje rreze kanali rruges per ne aeroport, ky kishte qene i mbajur si i arrestuar nga policia Irakene e forcat e koalicionit qe po ja vene pergjegjesine njera-tjetres per arrestimin e parregullt.
Pse shkoi Nicholasi ne Irak ?
hakmarrje te vjetra qe ne kohe te adoleshences /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

P.S: E bastardova pak por nuk mendoj se mund te flitet me per Nicholasin.
 

D-J

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Fillimisht postuar nge Renea:

Thelle brenda ne shpirtin e tij Diku eshte akoma nje femije 10-vjecar, qe kerkon vemendje nga te gjithe.Keni degjuar ndonjehere per ADD (Attention Deficit Disorder)?
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Renas i paska mungu vemendja nga une me duket, tyc. Zot na ruj, ruju nga fetaret.

Shtypi londinez i mbremjes thot se dhe Bushi ka mohuar se Nikun e vrau Alqaida. megjithese ka nga ata ketu qe u zgjuan nje dite te bukur dhe kuptuan me vonese qe jane bere budallenj dhe sja falin vetes kete gje po prapeseprape mbajne ne gurmaz te futmet e Bushit.

Shtypi ketu thot se po punohet ne keto linja:

Niku ishte spiun izraelit.

Nikun e vrane amerikanet per te pushuar zhurmen mbi fotot e roberve. FBI e arrestoi per 13 dite dhe e liroj kur Niku hodhi ne gjyq ameriken per burgim te paligjshem. Pas lirimit u zhduk derisa e gjeten ne nje cope kanal po pa gjurme prereje kokash e me the te thash. Thuhet se FBI ka organizuar skenen e vrasjes, hajde e merre vesh tani. Plus qe ka pas te fituar konraten e firmes nga Cheney pra ka pas lidhje politike. Edhe Irakenet e kishin ne listat e tyre qe ne fillim.

Keq me vjen per te po mallengjimin po e ruaj per me vone. Me pelqen Blendi@ kur e pershkruan si hallexhi rrefugjat amerikan qe vajti per te kerkuar buke ne Irak
 

blendiys

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Une nuk permenda hallexhiun apo te papunin,sidoqofte zgjedhja mbetet personale ajo c'ka pame diskutohet.
Kushdoqofte Nicholas Berg agjent i CIA-s apo spiun Izraelit,nese doni te flasim ne kete gjuhe le t'ja fillojme nga Milloshevici me shoke!
P.S:
Berg u arrestua fillimisht nga policia Irakene ku me pas transferohet ne zyrat perkatese ushtarake Amerikane .
Me vone lihet i lire,sipas korrespondences se fundit me familjen,Berg pershkruan ndalesen e tij "si pa probleme dhe normale"!
..ne te njejten kohe autoritetet Amerikane marrin ne pyetje prinderit e Nicholas ne lidhje me qendrimin e tij ne Irak.
C'do gje duket te jete e paster dhe Nicholas daton kthimin ne USA ne familjen e tij .
Nga kjo dite korrespondenca shkeputet per tu bere publike dite me vone................!
 

ali

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Blendo: the "Kush ta dha te drejten ty "njeriu me perce" te me denosh mua sipas rregullave te Kuranit tend?"

Po u fute ne vendin tim nuk kam per te te gjykuar me ligjin tend porse me ligjin tim. Kjo eshte normale.
 

antares

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Pak si cudi qe ne kulmin e skandalit te torturave te kryera ne Irak na mbiu ceshtja-Berg. A sju duket pak i cuditshem tempizmi?
Te me falni qe spata kohe tja u perkthej kete artikull por kush di anglisht mund ta lexoje.
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Berg Video Said Fake -
Taped In Abu Ghraib Prison
By Hector Carreon
La Voz de Aztlan
5-17-4


(ACN) - There is now ample evidence that the video showing the decapitation of 26 year old Nicholas Berg of Philadelphia by purported Al Queda members is a complete fraud. The real Nick Berg may or may not be dead, but the heavily edited video is nothing but a fake.

This is the conclusion of La Voz de Aztlan after a frame by frame analysis and the conclusion of hundreds of film, medical and other experts world wide who downloaded, viewed and analyzed the video as well. Literally thousands of persons world wide requested the video, which is rapidly disappearing from the Internet, after our news service published "Nick Berg decapitation video declared a fraud by medical doctor" on Wednesday May 12 and which was linked by other independent news services on the internet.

With the advent of the Internet, computers and sophisticated programs it has become increasingly difficult for governments to "pull the wool" over the eyes of their citizens. The Internet has essentially allowed freedom loving people around the world to form communication networks that can now out compete the best intelligence government agencies or special operations groups. This has certainly been the case with the hastily released and shoddy video showing five phoney Al queda members participating in the decapitation of Nicholas Berg that was intended, exclusively, to defray attention from the scandalous sexual abuses of Iraqi POW's that took place at the Abu Ghraib prison outside Baghdad. Evidence in fact shows that the Berg decapitation was filmed inside the walls of the notorious Abu Ghraib prison, this cursed dungeon where probably Satan himself roams its corridors.

It is now known that the opportune decapitation video was first uploaded from London, England to a now defunct website in a server located in Malaysia. The website at http://www.al-asnar.biz was shut down as soon as conservative news outlets like CNN and Fox News were notified. These two news services wasted no time in coming out with headlines like "Islamic Terrorists Decapitate an American in Iraq". Within minutes, local news services from New York to Los Angeles were screaming "Muslim Animals Chop Off the Head of an American" and were showing only short segments of the fake video. Pro-Zionist radio stations in Los Angeles have spent literally days since then talking about the Muslim barbarians and why it is so important to support the war in Iraq.

La Voz de Aztlan became mighty suspicious when we first saw a photograph of the purported Nicholas Berg sitting in front of his captors on a white plastic chair that looked very familiar. In addition, the orange prison overalls he was wearing in the video looked mighty familiar as well. La Voz de Aztlan is very lucky that we have a very large readership base that utilizes both e-mail and our "News-Tips Form" on our home page to send us information. Within minutes we were sent the URL where we could download the entire and original video of Nicholas Berg's decapitation. Immediately after viewing the video, we knew that many things about the video just didn't look right and which defied simple logic.

Some peculiar anomalies became readily apparent after watching the video and others followed after careful analysis. Many of the anomalies were pointed out to us by our readers who responded after downloading and viewing the video themselves. Please refer to the photographs published, along with this article, on our website at http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm as these anomalies are described and enumerated below:

1. Notice the standard US Military Police issued prisoner overalls that Nicholas Berg is wearing in Photo 1. The orange color prisoner overalls that Nicholas Berg is wearing are identical to the ones Islamic prisoners are made to wear by the US Military Police at the Guantanamo, Cuba prison as shown in Photo 2.

2. Notice the white plastic chair that Nicholas Berg is sitting on as shown in Photo 1. It is identical to the white plastic chair that the now infamous Pfc. Lynddie England is sitting on at the Abu Ghraib prison as shown in Photo 3. This same white plastic chair can also be seen in the horrid photograph where an MP is sodomizing an Iraqi POW with his finger at the upper right corner of Photo 4. In addition, it can be seen on the lower left side of Photo 5.

3. The color and texture of the wall as shown in the frames taken from the video as shown in Photo 1 and Photo 6 are the same as those of the Abu Ghraib prison shown in Photo 4.

4. The most telling evidence that the video of the decapitation of Nicholas Berg was taken inside the Abu Ghraib prison can only be detected by performing a frame by frame analysis. La Voz de Aztlan did just that and some revealing frames came up that are difficult to see if the video is played on normal speed. Towards the end of the video, at frames 9306 through 9368, a person with a US military cap temporarily pokes about a quarter of his left head into the video. His neck, left ear and part of his cap and visor can be seen. We have prepared an animated gif with just the relevant frames that clearly shows this at Animated Photo 7. Look at the right hand side as someone with a military cap, possibly with a second video camera, pokes his head into the video. Compare this animated gif with the MP whose cap is circled on Photo 4.

Anyone who views the video will see that it is phoney. The five so call terrorists are phoney. The one on the extreme right in Photo 6 is pudgy and is wearing very clean tennis shoes. This will not be the case with an Al queda fighter. Also, Photo 6 shows that at least three of them are wearing bullet proof vests. Has anyone seen Al queda members wearing heavy and cumbersome bullet proof vests? Look at the garb that all five are wearing. They look like Halloween costumes.

For the time being, the mainstream media is totally ignoring the above evidence. Hopefully soon some brave mainstream publisher will dare to bring this important information to the American people. The nation needs to know who was and what really happened to Nicholas Berg.
 

Arber

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un lexova qe CIa dhe FBI e kishin paralajmeruar qe te largohesh dhe kishinn ofruar ta shoqeronin deri ne kufi dhe ai nuk kish pranuar. Me falni por shteeti amerikan e ka bere te veten ne kete rast. Ne fund te fundit ai vet deshi te qendroje dhe KU> ne IRAK? pfff....atje behet lufte ore jo banjo dielli!!!

Gjitsesi ajo qe ndodhi qe e tmerrshme. Totalisht e tmerrshme.
 

D-J

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Aliu eshte nje 10-vjecar iraken i gjymtuar nga bombardimet e koalicionit para nje viti. Foton e tij do ta gjeje ne cdo gazete apo buletin lajmesh derisa e sollen ne Angli, i bene operacion (i vune kembe artificiale me duket) i dhane pashaporte angleze etj. Aliu akoma permendet nganjehere, eshte bere si celebrity. Shume veta thonin pse Aliu kur ka mijera te tjere te gjymtuar? Sepse tmerret dhe pasojat e luftes kapin me teper imagjinaten dhe lujane me mire me psikikun e publikut kur keto tmerre identifikohen me nje person te vecante se sa me "faceless persons" apo me shprehjen mijera te vrare.

Por kjo teme shprehu vetem urrejtje, keqinformim, rracizem dhe denigrim fetar.
 

Mark

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While ddd turned out to be a spineless fcuk!

Merhaba o vllazni e forumit. Njoni tha nji llaf 100 u hudhen me e mbyt. Avash e legena qe cirrni fytyren nga mallengjimi per palestinezet. Avash o lope qyteti se fundi i fundit i bene me gjithmend ate vrasje ata. "Allahu Hekberr, Allahu hekberrrrr"
Heads will roll.
Oh but let em roll.
The importand thing is that we do not inflame the war of words. let heads roll... t's ok. we spineless fcuks, don't ask don't tell

Sh!t in a bag and punch it!!!!
 
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