Vdes Ronald Regan... Retrospektive luftes se ftohte.

Vdes Ronald Regan... Retrospektive luftes se ftohte.

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Ish-Presidenti i SHBA Ronald Regan nderroi jete sot pas nje lufte te gjate me nje semundje te rralle. Regan dreitoi SHBA ne nje nder periudhat me kritike... gjate Luftes se Ftohte

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thAci

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Per mua Regan jetoj ne vitet e luftes te ftofte dhe merita e tij ishte qe diti te kordinonte dipllomacine me forcen.Ai i perdori te dyja ne kohen e duhur dhe ketu qendron merita e tij.Ronald Regan gjeti nje partenere si Theaçer ne Angli dhe te dy se bashku bene ate qe ne pak vite te shifej efikasiteti i sistemit socialist ruse!!!
 

kaci

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Ronald Regan ka qene nje nga Presidentet me karizmatik qe ka pasur United States ai ka bere shume per Ameriken ka qene nje njeri qe u be president ne moshen rreth 70 vjecare dhe prape ishte i zoti dhe pse ne ate moshe dhe arriti tja kthente mendjen Gorbacovit me aftesite e tija per te negocjuar , prehte ne paqe .
 

Kondrapedali

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Për meritat e Reganit për Sh.B.A i shtrëngoj dorën, por jam pak skeptik që këto merita të kenë ndikuar për mirë tek vendet e tjera. Për mua merita e Reganit në rrëzimin e komunizmit është simbolike. Ishte Gorbaçhev që pranoi të takohej me Regan dhe jo merita e këtij të fundit që i mbushi mendjen! /pf/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 

OROSHI

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Jo plako,ishin nderhyrjet energjike te Reaganit qe detyruan Rusine te ulej ne ***** ,nuk ishte problemi i Gorbacjovit por i KGB-se,sepse Gorbacjovi ishte deklaruar si proPerendimor.Reagani personifikon njeriun qe zhduku faren e komunizmit ne Evropen lindore.
 

antares

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Jam i nje mendimi me kondrapedalin. Avash avash ti Orosh/beterr se po na mallengjen aq shume sa do djegim tastjerat me lotet qe do na kullojne....
Ajo fara e komunizmit e ka zanafillen shume heret dhe nuk ra nga veprimet apo fjalimet e nje kaubojsi. Sa per dijeni fara eshte gjalle e gezuar (njafton te shohesh arenen politike shqiptare) dhe ne gai gjithe lindjen shkembeu pushtetin politik me ate politik e ekonomik.
Ju po me dukeni me amerikane se amerikanet, po kjo seshte cudi po te kesh parasysh se gati 25% e amerikaneve kane nevoje per ndihme urgjente psikiatrike.
 

Asahel

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Mister Gorbachev open this gate, Mister Gorbachev tear down this wall!

May God bless The Gipper!
 

militanti1980

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Po avash more njerez. Ju po me duket se e lavdroni shume kete njeri.
Sa per mua, mire qe e theu qafen. Se fale njerezish te tille Cowboy si ky dhe Gorbatschowi, bota jone gjate nje kohe te gjate ka jetuar me friken e luftes se trete boterore.

Ky njeri ka rrezikuar me politiken e tij tamam cowboy-çe gjithe boten, vetem sepse ka dashur te behej "Boss"-i i kesaj bote, sikur bota ka nevoj per nje "Boss"!

Mos mendoni se Amerika ka qene me e mire se sa Rusia. Te dyja palet kane bere luftra ne Kongo, Ruanda, Afganistan vetem per interesat e veta: Te zoterojne te gjithe boten.
 

GJENERALI

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Me vdekjen e Regan amerika humbi nje qen tjeter,shoqeria nje majmun dhe bota nje çitë imperialiste...SHYQYR QE VDIQ ME NE FUND /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

antares

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Ja nje artikull interesant per plehren qe u qerua se fundmi:
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Here Lies the Worst of All

By John Dolan


In all of America, isn't there one person brave enough to dump wet cement on Reagan's Hollywood Boulevard star? Isn't there one bitter reject with nothing to lose, willing to pour lighter fluid over the "tributes" Reagan's fans have been laying outside the funeral home?

Apparently not. Every fool in America is deep in mourning for this worthless man, who had no conscience, no intellect and no shame. He had all the faults and none of the virtues of the fascist: malice without frankness; cruelty without courage; pomp without dignity. And if all 285 million of you suckers are willing to sit there and let the jerks lie about him to your face, then you deserve him. He really was your kind of man.

No one but a sucker would stand for the crap they're saying about Reagan. The claims they're making for Reagan aren't just false -- they're comic.

"He was a brave leader." Reagan was the most cowardly president of the 20th century. His favorite weapons systems were those which could not possibly be used in anger, such as the B1 bomber or Star Wars. These weapons transferred money to military-industrial stockholders without risking actual wartime use, which made them ideal for corporate cowards like Reagan's staffers. It took his chickenhawk braintrust months to get up the nerve to invade Grenada, an island so tiny even the Army had a hard time finding maps for it. And when the American military finally triumphed, after some "tough combat" with a couple hundred Cuban construction workers, Reagan's men pissed themselves with relief. But they still wouldn't give effective anti-aircraft weapons to the Afghans -- not until Democratic congressmen forced Reagan the Peacenik's trembling hand.

The Iran-Contra scandal revealed just how un-martial and indeed anti-American Reagan's military policies really were. While refusing to arm the Afghans, who were brave and effective anti-Soviet fighters, Reagan's circle was obsessed with funneling huge wads of cash to the "Contras," the Nicaraguan death squads whose military effectiveness consisted only of massacring unarmed villagers, and who never once stood up to Sandinista troops and provided the least semblance of battle. Since he was forbidden by law from slipping money to the Contras without Congressional authorization, Reagan sent fascist stooge Ollie "Nutcase" North to Iran -- to sell the Iranian Islamists US weaponry! Iran -- the country that hated us most in the world! Sending them US weapons and sending the money to sleazy coke-dealing throat-slitters who were no use in battle at all! How in the name of besieged sentience is that a patriotic act?

"He was a compassionate conservative." What this means is that he was the only American rightwinger whose evil didn't show in every photograph--camouflage honed in dozens of films from an era when entertainment was bland and inoffensive. He was the quintessential American success, without memories or even a scrap of affect. His adopted son, Michael, wrote about meeting his dad at the boarding school to which the boy had been sent by his indifferent Hollywood parents. Reagan did a guest appearance at the school, which made Michael feel very proud. He stood in line to see his Dad. As each boy passed and shook his hand, Reagan said exactly the same line: "Hello, Sonny, what's your name?" Michael's turn finally came. He looked up at his father, who said, "Hello, Sonny, what's your name?"

Compassionate? I know better. I grew up under Reagans rule. Many of his best techniques were refined in his terms as governor of California, long before he became president. Before Reagan, insane people were maintained at State expense. Under Reagan, the job was transferred to "community care" -- but as everybody knew, there was no such thing. So every crazy in California took the bus to Berkeley.

"He won the Cold War." On the contrary, he came to power when the Cold War was already over, with the Soviet gerontocracy hanging on to power, trying not to make waves and hoping that their dying system would last their own lifetimes. Reagan and his CIA analysts confronted an opponent they knew to be dying or dead, and spent eight years propping up that moribund opponent in order to keep the suckers scared and the military-industrial complex running strong.

If you read Philip K. **** 's novels, you know who Reagan was: he was Buster Friendly. Tireless, grinning, never taking himself too seriously -- and avidly working to destroy anything worth saving.

Like Buster, Reagan hated Nature -- the animals, the forests -- most of all. You can explain his hatred as the result of buyout by timber and oil interests, and that's true to some extent. But other rightwing politicians in the habit of colluding with the energy biz go to some trouble to pretend they value all that environmental shit. Reagan never did. In fact, his record of anti-Nature invective is one of the few clear intellectual themes one can discern in his speeches. While still governor of California, he made the famous "If you've seen one Redwood tree, you've seen'em all" remark. He always made the extra effort to revile trees and the people who hugged them, to disseminate ridiculous claims about plants causing pollution, and to strip first California and then the whole country of every park, wilderness or environmental law. As far as I can see, this was his only principle: hatred of life. And the more beautiful and rare the life, the more intense his hatred.

And now the amnesiac selfishness which characterized his whole undeservedly long, comfortable life has finally lapped over the top and stopped his heart. It was typical of him, though, to pick an exit that denied all thought, and all suffering. Those were for lesser breeds.
 

michael madsen

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Antares,plehre me ere te qelbur eshte ky qe ka shkruajtur kete artikull.Ronnald Reagan ishte nje nga presidentet me te afte,me te zgjuar(politikisht),me te vendosur,me te mire qe ka pasur Amerika.Nuk e kuptoj se nga te buron(edhe ke shkrimet e tjera te tuat qe lexova) gjithe ky duf,ky mllef,kjo urrejtje patologjike kunder Amerikes dhe amerikaneve.Ca te kane bo mer jahu?Te kan vra nonen,baben a ca?

Vec nese nuk je(sic duket)ekstremist islamik.Nese i urren per vdekje amerikanet,atehere menyra me e mire per te marre hak eshte te behesh edhe ti kamikaze ne Irak,se aty ke shume amerikane.Nuk ta mban?Mos je gje fryks?A s'do te shkosh ne parajse ku do gjesh 72 kurva? /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

antares

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Ky eshte nje studiues amerikan. Dhe persa i perket zgjuarsise se Reganit mjafton te te kujtoj thenien e Margaret Tecerit te Anglise: "Me sa duket Regani nuk ka gje midis vesheve".
Nje menyre e holle angleze per te thene se kemi te bejme me nje kaqol mendjethare.
Vertet kujton se une jam ndonje ekstremist islamik? Lexoi me me kujdes shkrimet e mija. Sa per vajtjen ne Irak ne kemi cuar nja 70 mercenare qe edhe po te na vijne ne qese, shpenzimet prape vete kemi per ti paguar. urrejtja dhe percmimi ndaj nje shteti (se amerika seshte komb) mund te shprehet ne shume menyra dhe jo vetem me ate qe thua ti.
Ben shume gabim qe permend "72 kurva", se megjithese une s'jam mysliman po nuk e ndjej veten mire kur feja e dikujt neperkembet ne kete menyre.
Tregohu me i ekuilibruar djalosh se neser mund te hasesh ne ndonje "hundelesh" dhe pastaj ai ta tregon praktikisht vendin me menyra jo-demokratike......
 

michael madsen

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Antares,une di shume mire qe Margaret Thatcher jo vetem qe nuk e kishte me gjithmen kur shprehej ashtu (bente shaka) per mikun e saj shume te ngushte Ronnald Reagan(her political soulmate),por kishte nje konsiderate teper te larte per te,ashtu si gjithe personat objektive dhe te zgjuar.

Nuk ju pergjigje pyetjes sime:Nga te buron gjithe ky duf,ky mllef,kjo urrejtje patologjike per Ameriken,gjithcka ka te beje me te,dhe amerikanet?Ca te kan bo?Te kan vra nanji nga robt e shpise? (Nese nuk je ekstremist islamik)
 

antares

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Une nuk e di se si e ka pasur Teceri, pune per te.
Per sa i perket dashurise sime per jankite kjo eshte nje histori shume e gjate qe mund te permblidhej ne nje liber e jo ne nje postim forumi.
Mjafton te te them qe ti hedhesh nje sy ketij aborti monstruoz te natyres, krijimit, historise dhe pastaj dhe influences ne Europe nga fillimi i shekullit te kaluar e ketej.
Por mos kujto se fajtore per kete jane amerikanet, ata jane thjesht nje organizem i semure qe e ka humbur prej kohesh pavarsine dhe aftesine per te menduar e reaguar. Ne nje fare menyre ata jane viktima.
 

Alanis

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Ne nje fare menyre ata jane njerezit me te lumtur te botes.
 

OROSHI

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Ne nje fare menyre ata jane njerezit me krenare ne bote :wave:
 

GJENERALI

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Ne nje fare menyre jane njerezit me te dhjere te botes dhe me kriminele :rockband:
 

OROSHI

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Citim"per dashurine time me jankite eshte nje histori e gjate dhe duhet nje liber....." :eek: ,mos fillon andej nga viti 1864?? :tipsy:
 

antares

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Sigurisht, Linkolni beri shkeljen e pare te madhe te idealeve mbi te cilen u bashkuan fillimisht 13 shtetet e para pas pavarsise nga Anglia.
Te gjitha shtetet kishin te drejte te qendronin apo te shkeputeshin nga konfederata (bashkim vullnetar). Linkolni i dha ne menyre arbitrare fuqi dhe atribute qe sja njihte kush vetes.
Po shkaku i thelle i luftes civile ishte fare meskin (ceshtje bakejsh). Ne fund te fundit ky ishte dhe shkaku kryesor qe kolonite kerkuan pavarsi nga Anglia (nje takse 2% qe i jepej anglise). Eshte ironik fakti qe sot jankite i paguajne qeverise federale 15-20 here me shume taksa dhe askush smendon te hape gojen pa le te kerkoje shkeputje.....
Pra historikisht ky konglomerat njerzish (s'po e quaj popull) ka bere luftra per pune faturash dhe grabitjeje, me vone (dhe kjo eshte gjeja qe me indinjon me teper) i veshin veprimet e tyre me nje shtrese qellimesh humanitare, perparimtare, demokratike etj etj etj.
Mua me indinjon hipokrizia dhe jo aq veprimet ne vetvete, se te gjithe shtetet kane bere krime po nuk thone ama po te zhduk nga faqja e dheut per te miren tende. Prandaj Sadami qendron moralisht me lart se qiraxhinjte e sotem te Shtepise se Bardhe se ai te pakten nuk deklaronte se eshte mbrojtes i madh i te drejtave te njeriut apo i vetvendosjes se kombeve. (ne fund te fundit ai ishte nje njeri i ardhur ne pushtet me ndihmen e amerikaneve). Prandaj sot ne Bagdad irakianet thone "Iku ciraku po erdhi ustai"
 

OROSHI

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Apapapapap,nje shkrim qe perfaqeson INJORANCEN me te madhe qe mund te kete nje person,nuk ja vlen ti pergjigjem!!!!(per anetares) :book: :cool:
 
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