SULMOHET LONDRA

SULMOHET LONDRA

Multiple blasts hit London transport system
Explosions shut down subway, buses, paralyzing capital; 2 deaths confirmed


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Injured subway passengers are escorted away from Edgware Road Tube station in central London following an explosion during rush hour on Thursday.
BREAKING NEWS

Updated: 6:54 a.m. ET July 7, 2005
NOTE: This is a developing story and details will be added as they become available.

LONDON - Near simultaneous explosions rocked the London subway and three double-decker buses at the morning rush hour Thursday, police and news reports said. Authorities said the six blasts caused at least two deaths and nine injuries and police said they found indications of explosives at the scene of one of a series of blasts.

"We are concerned that this is a coordinated attack. We are aware that one of the sites does containly does contain indications of explosives," London police chief Sir Ian Blair said on Sky News.

He said authorities had not received any warning. "We have been at a very high state of alert. Of course if there had been any kind of specific warnings we would have dealt with it," he said.

The near simultaneous explosions came a day after London was awarded the 2012 Olympics and as the G-8 summit was getting underway in Scotland. Initial reports blamed a power surge, but officials were not ruling out an intentional attack.

"There have been a number of dreadful incidents across London today," said Home Secretary Charles Clarke, Britain's top law enforcement officer. He said there were "terrible injuries."

Police confirmed two deaths and said there were at least six explosions.

One witness, Darren Hall, said some passengers emerging from an evacuated subway station had soot and blood on their faces. He told BBC TV that he was evacuated along with others near the major King's Cross station and only afterward heard a blast.

Buses destroyed
Sky News showed a picture of a mangled red bus; police said they suspected a bomb caused the explosion.

Police confirmed an explosion destroyed a double-decker bus at Russell Square in central London, and Dow Jones Newswires reported police reporting explosions on at least two others buses.

A witness at the Russell Square blast said the entire top deck of that bus was destroyed.

"I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air," Belinda Seabrook told Press Association, the British news agency.

She said the bus was packed with people.

"It was a massive explosion and there were papers and half a bus flying through the air," she said.

There was no immediate official comment from British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who was hosting the world's most powerful leaders at Gleneagles, Scotland. It was not clear if the G-8 gathering focusing on climate change and aid for Africa -- but from which Iraq has largely been left off the agenda -- would have to be postponed.

'Walking wounded'
Police said incidents were reported at the Aldgate station near the Liverpool Street railway terminal, Edgware Road and King's Cross in north London, Old Street in the financial district and Russell Square in central London, near the British Museum.

London Ambulance Service said several vehicles had been dispatched to the area near Liverpool Street station.

"We believe there was some sort of explosion. There are some walking wounded at Aldgate," said a spokesman for City of London police, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"We are not sure of the scale of the incident. Reports are still coming in."

Bradley Anderson, a subway passenger, told Sky News that "there was some kind of explosion or something" as his train reached the Edgware Road station in northeast London.

"Everything went black and we collided into some kind of oncoming train," Anderson said.

Simon Corvett, 26, who was on an eastbound train from Edgware Road station, said: "All of sudden there was this massive huge bang."

"It was absolutely deafening and all the windows shattered," he said. "There were just loads of people screaming and the carriages filled with smoke.

"You could see the carriage opposite was completely gutted," he said. "There were some people in real trouble."

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antares

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Shikoni se cfare llogarish bejne Jankite.....
Haj ne koken e tyre tani!


Fox News' Brian Kilmeade: London terror attack near G8 summit "works to ... Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together"

Media Matters | July 7 2005

The following exchange between Fox News host Brian Kilmeade and Fox News business contributor and substitute host Stuart Varney occurred during breaking news coverage of the attacks on London subways and buses on the July 7 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: And he [British Prime Minister Tony Blair] made the statement, clearly shaken, but clearly determined. This is his second address in the last hour. First to the people of London, and now at the G8 summit, where their topic Number 1 --believe it or not-- was global warming, the second was African aid. And that was the first time since 9-11 when they should know, and they do know now, that terrorism should be Number 1. But it's important for them all to be together. I think that works to our advantage, in the Western world's advantage, for people to experience something like this together, just 500 miles from where the attacks have happened.

VARNEY: It puts the Number 1 issue right back on the front burner right at the point where all these world leaders are meeting. It takes global warming off the front burner. It takes African aid off the front burner. It sticks terrorism and the fight on the war on terror, right up front all over again.
 

OROSHI

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Ku i gjen kto "media te majta" mer plak.
Ti sikur kerko ne labirinthet e bibliotekes marksiste-leniniste /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

antares

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Ja cfare eshte "ndihma" e hajduteve-demokratike dhe "punetore"!


"For God's Sake, Please Stop the Aid!"

Author: Thilo Thielke


SPIEGEL: Mr. Shikwati, the G8 summit at Gleneagles is about to beef up the development aid for Africa...

Shikwati: ... for God's sake, please just stop.

SPIEGEL: Stop? The industrialized nations of the West want to eliminate hunger and poverty.

Shikwati: Such intentions have been damaging our continent for the past 40 years. If the industrial nations really want to help the Africans, they should finally terminate this awful aid. The countries that have collected the most development aid are also the ones that are in the worst shape. Despite the billions that have poured in to Africa, the continent remains poor.

SPIEGEL: Do you have an explanation for this paradox?

Shikwati: Huge bureaucracies are financed (with the aid money), corruption and complacency are promoted, Africans are taught to be beggars and not to be independent. In addition, development aid weakens the local markets everywhere and dampens the spirit of entrepreneurship that we so desperately need. As absurd as it may sound: Development aid is one of the reasons for Africa's problems. If the West were to cancel these payments, normal Africans wouldn't even notice. Only the functionaries would be hard hit. Which is why they maintain that the world would stop turning without this development aid.

SPIEGEL: Even in a country like Kenya, people are starving to death each year. Someone has got to help them.

Shikwati: But it has to be the Kenyans themselves who help these people. When there's a drought in a region of Kenya, our corrupt politicians reflexively cry out for more help. This call then reaches the United Nations World Food Program -- which is a massive agency of apparatchiks who are in the absurd situation of, on the one hand, being dedicated to the fight against hunger while, on the other hand, being faced with unemployment were hunger actually eliminated. It's only natural that they willingly accept the plea for more help. And it's not uncommon that they demand a little more money than the respective African government originally requested. They then forward that request to their headquarters, and before long, several thousands tons of corn are shipped to Africa ...

SPIEGEL: ... corn that predominantly comes from highly-subsidized European and American farmers ...

Shikwati: ... and at some point, this corn ends up in the harbor of Mombasa. A portion of the corn often goes directly into the hands of unsrupulous politicians who then pass it on to their own tribe to boost their next election campaign. Another portion of the shipment ends up on the black market where the corn is dumped at extremely low prices. Local farmers may as well put down their hoes right away; no one can compete with the UN's World Food Program. And because the farmers go under in the face of this pressure, Kenya would have no reserves to draw on if there actually were a famine next year. It's a simple but fatal cycle.

SPIEGEL: If the World Food Program didn't do anything, the people would starve.

Shikwati: I don't think so. In such a case, the Kenyans, for a change, would be forced to initiate trade relations with Uganda or Tanzania, and buy their food there. This type of trade is vital for Africa. It would force us to improve our own infrastructure, while making national borders -- drawn by the Europeans by the way -- more permeable. It would also force us to establish laws favoring market economy.

SPIEGEL: Would Africa actually be able to solve these problems on its own?

Shikwati: Of course. Hunger should not be a problem in most of the countries south of the Sahara. In addition, there are vast natural resources: oil, gold, diamonds. Africa is always only portrayed as a continent of suffering, but most figures are vastly exaggerated. In the industrial nations, there's a sense that Africa would go under without development aid. But believe me, Africa existed before you Europeans came along. And we didn't do all that poorly either.

SPIEGEL: But AIDS didn't exist at that time.

Shikwati: If one were to believe all the horrorifying reports, then all Kenyans should actually be dead by now. But now, tests are being carried out everywhere, and it turns out that the figures were vastly exaggerated. It's not three million Kenyans that are infected. All of the sudden, it's only about one million. Malaria is just as much of a problem, but people rarely talk about that.

SPIEGEL: And why's that?

Shikwati: AIDS is big business, maybe Africa's biggest business. There's nothing else that can generate as much aid money as shocking figures on AIDS. AIDS is a political disease here, and we should be very skeptical.

SPIEGEL: The Americans and Europeans have frozen funds previously pledged to Kenya. The country is too corrupt, they say.

Shikwati: I am afraid, though, that the money will still be transfered before long. After all, it has to go somewhere. Unfortunately, the Europeans' devastating urge to do good can no longer be countered with reason. It makes no sense whatsoever that directly after the new Kenyan government was elected -- a leadership change that ended the dictatorship of Daniel arap Mois -- the faucets were suddenly opened and streams of money poured into the country.

SPIEGEL: Such aid is usually earmarked for a specific objective, though.

Shikwati: That doesn't change anything. Millions of dollars earmarked for the fight against AIDS are still stashed away in Kenyan bank accounts and have not been spent. Our politicians were overwhelmed with money, and they try to siphon off as much as possible. The late tyrant of the Central African Republic, Jean Bedel Bokassa, cynically summed it up by saying: "The French government pays for everything in our country. We ask the French for money. We get it, and then we waste it."

SPIEGEL: In the West, there are many compassionate citizens wanting to help Africa. Each year, they donate money and pack their old clothes into collection bags ...

Shikwati: ... and they flood our markets with that stuff. We can buy these donated clothes cheaply at our so-called Mitumba markets. There are Germans who spend a few dollars to get used Bayern Munich or Werder Bremen jerseys, in other words, clothes that that some German kids sent to Africa for a good cause. After buying these jerseys, they auction them off at Ebay and send them back to Germany -- for three times the price. That's insanity ...

SPIEGEL: ... and hopefully an exception.

Shikwati: Why do we get these mountains of clothes? No one is freezing here. Instead, our tailors lose their livlihoods. They're in the same position as our farmers. No one in the low-wage world of Africa can be cost-efficient enough to keep pace with donated products. In 1997, 137,000 workers were employed in Nigeria's textile industry. By 2003, the figure had dropped to 57,000. The results are the same in all other areas where overwhelming helpfulness and fragile African markets collide.

SPIEGEL: Following World War II, Germany only managed to get back on its feet because the Americans poured money into the country through the Marshall Plan. Wouldn't that qualify as successful development aid?

Shikwati: In Germany's case, only the destroyed infrastructure had to be repaired. Despite the economic crisis of the Weimar Republic, Germany was a highly- industrialized country before the war. The damages created by the tsunami in Thailand can also be fixed with a little money and some reconstruction aid. Africa, however, must take the first steps into modernity on its own. There must be a change in mentality. We have to stop perceiving ourselves as beggars. These days, Africans only perceive themselves as victims. On the other hand, no one can really picture an African as a businessman. In order to change the current situation, it would be helpful if the aid organizations were to pull out.

SPIEGEL: If they did that, many jobs would be immediately lost ...

Shikwati: ... jobs that were created artificially in the first place and that distort reality. Jobs with foreign aid organizations are, of course, quite popular, and they can be very selective in choosing the best people. When an aid organization needs a driver, dozens apply for the job. And because it's unacceptable that the aid worker's chauffeur only speaks his own tribal language, an applicant is needed who also speaks English fluently -- and, ideally, one who is also well mannered. So you end up with some African biochemist driving an aid worker around, distributing European food, and forcing local farmers out of their jobs. That's just crazy!

SPIEGEL: The German government takes pride in precisely monitoring the recipients of its funds.

Shikwati: And what's the result? A disaster. The German government threw money right at Rwanda's president Paul Kagame. This is a man who has the deaths of a million people on his conscience -- people that his army killed in the neighboring country of Congo.

SPIEGEL: What are the Germans supposed to do?

Shikwati: If they really want to fight poverty, they should completely halt development aid and give Africa the opportunity to ensure its own survival. Currently, Africa is like a child that immediately cries for its babysitter when something goes wrong. Africa should stand on its own two feet.
 

disku

UNI
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Kushdo ta kete bere duhet te paguaje, megjithate me duket se keto bomba kishin te njejtin qelli: pra ti kthenin reston nje qeverie perkrahese te luftes ne Irak.

Mos me keqkuptoni jam plotesisht i bindur se kush e beri kete akt duhet te paguaje deri ne piken e fundit te gjakut te derdhur sot ne Londer.


Personalisht jam totalisht i bindur se askush nuk e ka te drejten te marre jete te pafajshme ne emer te Zotit. Ne fakt nuk do ngutesha edhe te drejtoja gishtin drejt dikujt se akoma nuk ekzistojne prova shtypese per autoresine e krimit.

Ritheksoj kush perdor keto makabra duhet te paguaje.


Ps: Orosh beji nje nder vete, posto pak me shume se nje rresht se le koqe.n e namit.
 

antares

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Personalisht jam totalisht i bindur se askush nuk e ka te drejten te marre jete te pafajshme ne emer te Zotit.
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Shume dakord, po te marresh jete mbi nje genjeshter, dhe pasi genjeshtres i del kallaji te vazhdosh te marresh perseri jete?

Ky ndryshojne keto 6-7 bomba nga 6-7 mije bomba e raketa qe u leshuan ne Bagdad e Falluja (brenda disa oreve)?

A vlen nje anglez sa nje iraken? Nese jo, cili eshte kursi i kembimit?
Berisha duhet te terheqe urgjentisht pengjet politike te Nanos ne Irak e Afganistan! Kontingjenti shqiptar shkoi atje qe Nanoja te bente ndonje fotografi me Bushin apo te merrte ndonje buzeqeshje, tani qe humbi nuk i duhen me gjynahqaret qe rrezikojne te vriten si qen nga guerrilja irakene dhe vete shqiperia te haje ndonje bumje qe te mos shohe ngate veje!

:smash: :smash: :smash: :smash: :smash:
 

Albert Zylyftari

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Fillimisht postuar nga antares:

-Ky ndryshojne keto 6-7 bomba nga 6-7 mije bomba e raketa qe u leshuan ne Bagdad e Falluja
-A vlen nje anglez sa nje iraken? Nese jo, cili eshte kursi i kembimit?
-Shqiperia te haje ndonje bumje qe te mos shohe ngate veje!



ANTARES!
- Krahasim trashanik, bombat ne Irak hidhen kunder atyre qe mbrojne akoma kriminelin Sadam Hysen; ndersa atentatet neper bote jane kunder qytetareve te thjeshte.Lufta ne irak ka nje qellim, kurse islamistet tani s'kane asnje lloj qellimi, ata vrasin per qejf.
-Nje irakian nuk vlen sa nje anglez, ata poshterojne edhe grate e tyre.
-Dhe e treta s'bie rrufeja ne hale
 

ilirjan

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Fillimisht postuar nga L&P:
[QB] Boll na çatë kokën me "analiza" e idiotësira koti, por kush di ndonjë gjë për shqiptarët që banojnë atje, të na thotë diçka se telefonat janë të zënë.


Telefonat celulare u nxoren menjehere jashte perdorimit (nga policia sekrete)

arsyeja se perdoren nga terroristet si bomba telekomande.
 

antares

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Qarte:

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- Krahasim trashanik, bombat ne Irak hidhen kunder atyre qe mbrojne akoma kriminelin Sadam Hysen; ndersa atentatet neper bote jane kunder qytetareve te thjeshte.Lufta ne irak ka nje qellim, kurse islamistet tani s'kane asnje lloj qellimi, ata vrasin per qejf.
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Gjithmone nese sulmi eshte kryer nga Al-Kaeda Europiane: Te njejten gje mund te thoshin atentatoret: ata donin ti binin ketij apo atij krimineli (aty ka shume) po u vrane ca te pafajshem apo "collateral damage"! Per sa i perket asaj qe Sadami ishte kriminel kjo eshte nje ceshtje pak me e koklavitur se c'eshte e verteta me shume irakene kane vrare Bush-Bleri se sa Sadami. Ai qe eshte hero per ty (Bushi) eshte kriminel per mua!
Cili eshte qellimi sipas teje i luftes ne Irak? Jo per gje po edhe Jankite kane filluar te kene dyshime tashme.......

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-Nje irakian nuk vlen sa nje anglez, ata poshterojne edhe grate e tyre.
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Shume dakord po ama te njejten llogjike mund te ndjekin edhe Irakenet, eshte ceshtja e Kepuces proverbiale te Kondrapedalit!

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-Dhe e treta s'bie rrufeja ne hale
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Ne kete rast amen!
 

Le_Routard

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Une mendoj qe nje irakjan, apo anglez, apo kinez vlejn te gjithe njesoj se kane te njejten gje te perbashket, jane Njerez!

Edhe une mendoj qe Bushi eshte 'kriminel' se sulmoj nje vend e vrau njerez te pafajshem vetem per ceshtje interesash financjare.

Por ama eshte qesharake qe kriminelat, ne kete rast kamikazet dhe terroristat, te shajn Bushin kriminel se nuk jane me te mire se ai.

Terroristat nuk kane asnje justifikim per aktet e tyre barbare. Barbaria nuk lahet me barbari. Po te ishin te zotet te shkonin te hidhnin ne ere kazermat me ushtare amerikan dhe jo civilet te pafajshem e te pambrojtur qe nuk kane asnje pergjegjsi per krimet e Bushit, e nuk kan asnje force per ti ndaluar keto krime.
 

disku

UNI
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Fillimisht postuar nga antares:

Shume dakord, po te marresh jete mbi nje genjeshter, dhe pasi genjeshtres i del kallaji te vazhdosh te marresh perseri jete?
Kam qene edhe jam nga opozitoret me te eger krah Luftes ne Irak, keshtuqe ndrro strategji. E kam quajtur Bushin trap, dudum, skizofren edhe loder ne duart e cifuteve te shtepise se bardhe, por kjo nuk do te thote gjithsesi qe per hir te nje idioti te rrotk'rrizohet gjithe 'opozita' bushiane.

Ky ndryshojne keto 6-7 bomba nga 6-7 mije bomba e raketa qe u leshuan ne Bagdad e Falluja (brenda disa oreve)?
Bombat e Bushit jane te teknologjise se larte kurse keto jane primitive. Fakti qe presidenti yne eshte cope mishi me dy sy nuk do te thote qe edhe armatimet e tij jane te bome me kanoce te vjetra peshku edhe me fitil te lagur me vaj peshku.
A vlen nje anglez sa nje iraken? Nese jo, cili eshte kursi i kembimit?
Lol
Kryesisht poundi Englez eshte monedhe e fuqishme keshtu qe Blair ka te gjithe te drejten te pretendoje kurs kembimi te larte ne lidhje me viktimat e tij. /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Megjithate s'jam i lekundur ne ate qe thashe: Mut! nuk mbulohet me mu.T se qelbet puna fare.
Berisha duhet te terheqe urgjentisht pengjet politike te Nanos ne Irak e Afganistan! Kontingjenti shqiptar shkoi atje qe Nanoja te bente ndonje fotografi me Bushin apo te merrte ndonje buzeqeshje, tani qe humbi nuk i duhen me gjynahqaret qe rrezikojne te vriten si qen nga guerrilja irakene dhe vete shqiperia te haje ndonje bumje qe te mos shohe ngate veje!
Ne fakt Tirana eshte ne te njejtin nivel me Londren, NY, Cassablanka edhe Madritin po ti vesh ne kanar. Edhe tashi kto alkajdistet e kane synim numer nji Tironen. Per me shume ushtaret tane e kane te sigutuar jetesen po te kthehen ne shqiperi. Leji er bab te morrin at lek se kan kalamoj me ushqy.
 

OROSHI

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Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Me sa po lexoj,te gjithe i denuam keto akte!Vetem Antaresi jo,nje dele e zeze do jete ne fis,ska prob.
Imagjinojeni,edhe *UNI* i denoi(me diplomaci)aktet terroriste.
Islamistet fundamentaliste nuk kane asgje te perbashket me besimtaret e thjeshte(ne fakt te gjithe falen per vdekjen e te pafeve).

Islami po degradohet nga vete kapobandat e tipit Toger Baba,ata qe do vuajne nga arroganca e ketyre kapobandave do jene disa qytetare Evropiane dhe te gjithe emigrantet muslimane!

Nje nazizem i ringjallur po duket ne sfondin blu te demokracise Evropiane!
 

antares

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Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Jane ata "civilet e pafajshem" qe mbajne ne pushtet monstra te tilla si Bush/Bleri!
"Civilet e pafajshem" para disa muajve zgjodhen perseri kriminelin Bler ne pushtet dhe kjo thjesht interpretohet si aprovim per krimet qe po kryhen ne Irak/Afganistan!
Ndoshta gjerat nuk jane ashtu sic duket, akoma nuk dihet me saktesi se kush eshte pas ketyre sulmeve!
Thjesht duhet pare kush perfiton!

Uni thote:
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Ne fakt Tirana eshte ne te njejtin nivel me Londren, NY, Cassablanka edhe Madritin po ti vesh ne kanar. Edhe tashi kto alkajdistet e kane synim numer nji Tironen. Per me shume ushtaret tane e kane te sigutuar jetesen po te kthehen ne shqiperi. Leji er bab te morrin at lek se kan kalamoj me ushqy.
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Mor mik, mua me dhimbset me shume nje cep trotuari ne Tirane se sa gjysma e New-Yorkut (e njejta gje eshte e vertete edhe per New-Yorkezin Joe!)!
Kur fishkellejne plumbat dhe plasin "hurmat" te gjithe bertasin Olelele per vete. Une asgjekundi nuk thashe se ne jemi kaq te rendesishem sa te meritojme ndonje "hurme"!

P.S. Ti thua Presidenti Yne, per ke e ke fjalen per Mojsiun apo Bushin?

:goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy: :goofy:
 

renea

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Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

NUk e kuptoj se c'fare lidhje ka Bushi, Bleri me sulmet ne Londer? Terroriset nuk jane moraliste, qe te ndikojne me eren politike te dy vendeve me te fuqishme ne bote. Puna eshte se keta kafshe, nuk kane kurajon te dalin ne lufte dhe te luftojne ushtare, por perfitojne nga emigracioni dhe vrasin njerez te pafajshem.

Analogjia e Irakut qe e dobet dhe keqadashese, vetem se lufta ne Irak eshte e gabuar kjo nuk i jep te drejten askujt te detonoje bomba mbi popull. Megjithate ky sulm perforecon idene se terrorristet dhe mebshtetesit e tyre jane imorale, felliqesia dhe duhen zhdukur nga kjo bote.
 

OROSHI

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:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Nuk me besohet qe *uni" ka shkrujt kto gjona :eek:
pse shpif ti Antares?

Pra,problemi asht ma i thjeshte se sa po e mendojme ne!
Ka dy kampe(gjithmone ne fakt)
Ata dhe ata!
 

disku

UNI
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Fillimisht postuar nga OROSHI:
[qb] :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Nuk me besohet qe *uni" ka shkrujt kto gjona :eek:
pse shpif ti Antares?

Pra,problemi asht ma i thjeshte se sa po e mendojme ne!
Ka dy kampe(gjithmone ne fakt)
Ata dhe ata! [/qb]
Te kishe i fije tru do kishe nuhat sarkazmen, po u desh nje postim i imi tu te citu ty me te sqaru. E lexove? Hap krahun tashi se na bone vape. :lol:
 

disku

UNI
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Antares te te dhimbseshin kaq shume trotuaret e Tirones daje rrije atje se dro ndertoje na nji edhe ti. Ama ke preferu me shku me i honger buken na i perendimori ene me i la met e sharre qe te hudha na i lek. Hurma jote nuk osht me e vlefshme se hurma ime apo e nji tjetri.
Thashe presidenti yne desha me njon presidenti njerk i yni se po i referohesha Bushit. Ama sic thashe me siper edhe ta tha edhe Renea se eshte Bushi gjakatar s'do te thote qe duhet te paguajne qytetaret e thjeshte kete gjak.

Megjithate Renea permendi luften ushtar me ushtar. A jane kushtet teknollogjike te barabarta? ballanca behet ne kete menyre, e dhimbshme por an eye for an eye sounds fair to me. :shrug:
 

antares

Primus registratum
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Bravo Reena....Ti do ta vrasesh!
Un? E pse un?
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Analogjia qe nuk e kapka ajo mendja jote modeste eshte tek gjaku i derdhur i njerezve te pafajshem!

Apo per ty nje i vrare nga nje bombe artizanale eshte me i rendesishem se sa 10 te djegur te gjalle me napalm nga "bombat inteligjente" amerikane qe kane vrare me shume "aleate" se sa irakenet vete!

Lexo njecike per Luften e Gjenerates se Katert si dhe per shkaqet dhe taktikat e terrorizmit i perdorur ky si mjet i luftes politike!
Vrasja e banditeve Janki te armatosur eshte nje veprim ushtarak dhe guerrilja e ben kur ka mundesi dhe jo kur do Bush/Bleri!
Vrasja e "civileve te pafajshem" eshte nje operacion psikologjiko-politik me qitje indirekte qe nuk influencon direkt ne fushen e luftimeve!
Bush/Bleri shpallen pas 11/9 Luften e 4 Boterore (e treta quhej lufta e ftohte), pse cuditeni tani qe ju plas ndonje "hurme" prapanices?
 

OROSHI

Primus registratum
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Plako,sarkazma nuk te ecen tek Antaresi!
Mu me duket e kunderta:qe ti po fillo e rrefehesh per mendimet e kalume fundamentaliste!
 

antares

Primus registratum
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Orosh! Ne do ti bejme te gjithe fondamentalistet pasues tipike te anti Globo-Plutokracise!
Te gjithe do mesojne nga Allahu-Akbar te kendojne Marsejezen, bile edhe ti (sa te mesosh frengjisht)!
Nderkohe kendo Internacionalen se ate e di mire!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

disku

UNI
Re: SULMOHET LONDRA

Te kishe men ti e kuptoje qe kur une e antares i pergjigjemi njeri tjetrit edhe ti mundon te hysh ne debat pa ja arrit qellimit do te thote qe opinioni yt po injorohet. Me vjek keq vertet .....me vjen keq qe po caj trapin tem ty te sqaru ty gjona elementare si kjo. /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Orosh falendero otin nuk ishte zone agrare se do ishte bo masaker delesh e dhish :lol:
 
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