Re te zeza mbi Iran, Is Iran Next?

Re te zeza mbi Iran, Is Iran Next?

Te gjithe e dine qendrimin cifuto-amerikan mbi Iranin. Nderkohe qe cifutet as nuk kane pranuar te nenshkruajne protokollin e mosperhapjes se Armeve te Shkaterrimit ne Mase dhe njekohesisht disponojne arme atomike, bakteriologjike e kimike,
po pellasin ne kupe te qiellit bashke me sherbetore e tyre amerikane per programin atomik te Iranit. Puna eshte qe Irani eshte nje kocke shume me e forte se Iraku (terren malor e jo shkretetire, popullsi 3-4 here me e madhe se Iraku, raketa qe mund te godasin Izraelin, dyshohet dhe raketa Antiship (Ruse) qe mund te godasin dhe aroplanmbajteset amerikane), dhe njekohesisht ka aftesine per te bere nje gjullurdi te papare ne Irak e Afganistan (ku ka shiite me shumice). Nderkohe veshtire se Rusia do te toleronte aq kollaj te kishte ushtrine amerikane ne kufijte e saj Jugore.
Cfare mendoni per keto fakte e zhvillime?

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Israel will be 'wiped off earth' if it attacks Iran
July 28, 2004

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Iran will wipe Israel "off the face of the earth" if it dared to attack the Islamic republic's nuclear facilities, a spokesman for Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guards was quoted as saying.

"The United States is showing off by threatening to use its wild dog, Israel," the public relations head of the Revolutionary Guards, Commander Seyed Masood Jazayeri, was quoted as saying by the Iranian student news agency ISNA.

"They will not hesitate to strike Iran if they are capable of it. However, their threats to attack Iran's nuclear facilities cannot be realised.

"They are aware Tehran's reaction will be so harsh that Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth and US interests will be easily damaged," he warned.

The commander asserted that Iran would not initiate a conflict, but in retaliation to any attack has proved itself to be "harsh, assertive, hard-hitting and destructive".

Iran's controversial bid to generate nuclear power is seen by arch-enemies Israel and the United States as a cover for nuclear weapons development, allegations that Iran denies.
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antares

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Bliss! Jane te verteta ato qe thua, po mos harro se 4000 vjet perpara edhe Perandoria Egjyptiane dukej e pamposhtshme, 2000 vjet perpara edhe Perandoria Romake dukej e papermbajteshme po ti e di se sot jane thjesht kujtime historike!
Dhe ironia eshte se gati te gjitha Perandorite e medha te te shkuares kane pasur nje mesazh filozofik, etik e kulturor, me te cilin i kane kontribuar pozitivisht botes. Keta janki apo "a-merd-ikane" cfare po i sjellin botes? Barbari, mediokritet e degjenerim si ai i Sodomes dhe Ghomorres!
Ti e di se si perfunduan Sodoma dhe Ghomorra!
 

Kondrapedali

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Orosh, më përmend një luftë që ka filluar Irani që pas Xerxes-it apo Dariusit në kohët e lashta! Po ashtu më përmend një shtet me të cilin Irani të ketë probleme!
Plako është kollaj me u bo papagall por e mira është edhe të dëgjosh se çfarë thua apo të paktën të mësosh se për çfarë po flet!

Bliss, sa më shumë fjalë aq më shumë dëm. Ne themi që fjala vret por në të vërtetë fjala ka edhe shumë fuqi të tjera. Pavarësisht se disave mund tu duket se po bëjmë gam gam përsëri them që e mira në këtë mes (e fjalës) egziston.
 

OROSHI

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Antares,me duket qe sindromi Francez(antiamerikanizmi) te ka pushtuar te gjithin!!Nuk e di se ku do te te shpjere mushka me gjithe ate urrejtje per nje komb, qe me e pakta ndihmoi Evropen ne ditet me te veshtira(ne kete rast Francezet jane bukeshkale),nuk ka rendesi se si e sheh ti LDB-ne,popujt atehere kishin nevoje per nje "dore" te ngrohte!!Cdo gje Amerikane e sheh me syze Islamike plako(pa e kuptuar as vete),te nisemi nga interesat me te vogla:ku ia pe ti Amerikes sherrin(si shqiptar them,apo vetequhesh internacionalist?),ti germon gjith diten vec te kapesh ndonje ndjenje/fjale/shkrim/derdellisje/vnere/ anti-amerikane,e ku do te te qoje ty kjo ndjenje e krijuar per nje komb???Mos ndoshta formimi yt politik ka filluar pikerisht tek urrejtja Amerikane??Nuk eshte problemi qe ti po merr anen e me te dobetit,problemi eshte qe ti JE komplet ne anen e se KEQES, te urresh nje vend demokratik(e bazuar ne 200 vjetet e fundit)dhe te bashkohesh me vende pa as me te voglen kulture demokratike,kesaj une i them lajthitje jo vetem nga trute por edhe nga kembet!!Krahasimet qe ben ti (kur eshte fjala per qeverine Amerikane)me gangstere/kriminela/viktima etj jane per mendimin tim komplet amatorllek dhe drejtim ne vetevrasje(urrejtja=kamikaz),sado qe te perpiqesh qe te mbjellesh urrejtje per Ameriken prapseprape (te pakten)Shqiptaret do dalin gjithmone me 90% pro-Amerikanizem!Nuk eshte problemi ketu,problemi eshte tek idete/endrrat/deshirat/fantazite tuaja(per ty jo per mu)ne lidhje me politiken/ekonomine/filozofine/sociologjine etj.Me te vertete me duket shume absurde urrejtja jote per nje qeveri(qeveria perfaqeson kombin)e cila, mire apo keq, perpiqet qe te mbroje interesat e veta por gjithashtu edhe te ndihmoje demokracite e brishta apo vendosjen e demokracive ne vendet ku ka shekuj qe zoterojne feudalizmi/tiranizmi e izma te tjere!!Tani,te kerkosh 100% sinqeritet ne politiken nderkombetare,kesaj i thone amatorizem!!!
Ne fund te fundit edhe sikur te jete ashtu sic thua ti(Amerikanet polic te botes,kapitaliste/imperialiste/janki/cifute/pushtues etj)kush je ti plako,Pol Poti/Enveri/Ho Shi Mini/Mao/Brezhnjevi(persa i perket urrejtjes Amerikane rradhitesh bashke me ata :tipsy: ).

PanIslamike do jete bota e re :smash: :tipsy: :tipsy: :tipsy:
 

antares

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Orosh! Jo 90% po 99.99% e shqiptareve te jene proamerikane kjo nuk ka ndonje rendesi per mua. Ti ben mire te mesosh gjuhen e padroneve te tu a-merd-ikane qe dhe te kesh mundesi te njohesh boten me mire!
Ja kush eshte Irani:

A Few Thoughts Before We 'Liberate' Iran

by Steven LaTulippe



It appears as though the long knives are out in Washington. Career operatives in the CIA and State Department who opposed the neocons’ attempt to "sex up" the intel during the run-up to the Iraq War are being purged wholesale. Various cliques at the CIA, who systematically leaked information to the press about just how bad things are in Iraq, are being replaced by yes-men or ideologues who can be relied upon to "toe the administration line". Anyone still doubting the Trotskyite ancestry of the neocons should finally be convinced by this housecleaning, which is being perpetrated in a manner that would make Chairman Mao blush (and which is also compromising our security by terminating numerous experienced intelligence analysts).

Meanwhile, the drumbeat for an attack against Iran continues more stridently than ever. Elements within this administration are opening a propaganda campaign designed to sabotage the European Union’s attempt to negotiate an agreement with Iran concerning its nuclear weapons program. Rumors and innuendo are being spread about the deceit of the Europeans, the duplicity of the Iranians, and the impotence of diplomacy as a means to solve this dispute.

Given this record, it is becoming increasingly obvious that President Bush is now wholly on-board with the neocons’ agenda and that an Iranian conflict may be on the way. After all, Karl Rove was famously quoted as saying that there must be "no war in ’04" due to the impending election. This, of course, says nothing about ’05.

But before we begin the saturation bombing, antiwar Americans should take the time to investigate the realities of Iran so as to be more informed about the political realities of that ancient land. One of the greatest resources I’ve found concerning Iranian politics is The Last Great Revolution. Written by journalist Robin Wright, who has reported for The Los Angeles Times and The Washington Post, it is a veritable treasure-trove of information.

The current pro-war narrative being spun by the administration basically revolves around assertions that Iran is a dangerous dictatorship run by a band of fanatical mullahs. It is claimed that the nation is a cross between Inquisitional Spain and Soviet Russia, complete with a military-industrial complex manufacturing WMDs which will be passed on to Osama bin Laden for deadly terrorist attacks against America.

Since Americans should know by now to take everything that this administration says about WMDs with a huge grain of salt, it behooves us to treat this entire neocon narrative with intense skepticism.

Ms. Wright paints a much different picture than the one currently being spoon-fed to the American public. The Islamic Republic was officially born, she notes, in 1979 after a national referendum accepted the constitution and created the numerous institutions which now make up the Iranian government. That referendum, like all subsequent Iranian elections, was reasonably free and was carried out with a universal franchise (which included women).

The governing system was conceived by the Ayatollah Khomeini who, despite being a religious extremist, sought to create a unique political arrangement in Iran. Basically, he wanted to fashion a society which blended democratic institutions with oversight by Islamic scholars. The system includes a parliament and a president who are elected by universal suffrage. Several seats in the parliament are reserved for religious minorities, including the Jewish, Christian, and Zoroastrian communities. The governing process is monitored by a supreme cleric (the Faqih) and a body of clerics called the Council of Guardians.

The basic criticisms of the Iranian government revolve around the powers of these religious offices. Specifically, the Council of Guardians retains the power to disqualify candidates and parties for membership in the parliament. In addition, this Council may nullify laws passed by the parliament if they are deemed to be in conflict with Islamic Law (though it should be added that these Islamic offices were included in the constitution which was adopted by the original referendum back in the 1970s).

But several points should be considered regarding these criticisms. First, the Council of Guardians is often limited in its disqualifications by practical political considerations. Mohammed Khatami, the current president, is a reformer who is in constant conflict with the conservative clerics and who has defeated the clerical candidate for that office several times. The Council has never dared to declare him unfit for office, fearing the political repercussions of such a decision. In addition, the parliament has often been controlled by reformist forces who oppose the strident Islamism of the mullahs.

While this system is obviously not a prototype of Jeffersonian republicanism, it is nevertheless incorrect to call it a dictatorship. In fact, the Iranian government is probably the most representative and democratic government in the Muslim Middle East.

In addition, Western attacks on this system because of its nullification of candidates and its proscription of political parties expose us to charges of hypocrisy. After all, even after the vetting process, the current Iranian parliament contains members from approximately 10 different political parties.

It is thus only fair to analyze our own system by this same standard. For instance, how many parties are currently represented in our Congress? By my count, all but 2 of the 535 members of our House and Senate belong to either of the two dominant parties (along with one Socialist and one Independent). Our system unabashedly discriminates against third parties by a variety of backdoor mechanisms that are only slightly more democratic than the Iranian Council of Guardians. Ballot access laws and campaign finance laws are rigged to prevent the fair participation of third parties in our elections. Participation in presidential debates is largely restricted to the two major parties by the shadowy maneuverings of the Commission on Presidential Debates. In this past election, the Democratic Party also engaged in a range of legal shenanigans to keep Ralph Nader off the ballot in numerous states, in flagrant disregard for the democratic rights of his supporters.

Other western nations also fall far short of the stringent standard by which Iran is being judged. Just a few weeks ago, a court in Belgium completely outlawed the Vlaams Blok, a right-wing anti-immigration party, because it was "espousing discriminatory ideologies". The Blok had garnered the largest vote total of any party in the last parliamentary elections there.

Is this behavior any more "democratic" than the Council of Guardians? And do these facts disqualify America and Belgium from membership in the democratic family of nations? Do they make us fair game for "regime change"?

The second point of criticism, the nullification of parliamentary laws by the Council of Guardians, also makes for an interesting comparison. Basically, Western critics charge that it is unacceptably dictatorial for a government to allow its laws to be voided by a committee of unelected scholars.

Unfortunately, our federal government has been degenerating into a system of judicial fiat for years. Our federal court system, which is comprised of unelected judges, is rife with judicial activism in which popular laws passed by elected representatives are thrown out…often by the most tenuous of constitutional rationales. Major aspects of our culture have been altered in an undemocratic fashion by this judiciary. Polls show that nearly 80% of the American voters, for instance, support prayer in public schools. Without Roe vs. Wade, probably 20 or 30 states would ban abortion. And it is hard to imagine that any elected body in America would ban Santa Claus decorations or displays of the Ten Commandments from public forums. Even more blatantly undemocratic, the federal judiciary has been nullifying a plethora of victorious popular referendums on topics such as recognizing English as the official language and withholding welfare from illegal aliens.

I should add here than I am not taking a side on any of these issues (nor am I singing the praises of untrammeled majoritarianism), but am merely demonstrating that the decisions of the judiciary in these instances are flagrantly against the will of the majority. Furthermore, these decisions have been enacted by bodies which are only marginally more "democratic" than the Iranian Council of Guardians.

The salient point here is that these criticisms of the Iranian system are not correct in labeling it as a hopeless dictatorship. It is a unique blend of democratic institutions monitored and fine-tuned by several bodies of religious scholars. This system was enacted in a free vote by the clear majority of the Iranian electorate. It is far from ideal, but our own system is also far from ideal.

Furthermore, administration attacks on Iran suffer from one additional dose of hypocrisy. The very same US government which is horrified by the Islamic Republic is simultaneously supporting a variety of nations in the Middle East which are far less democratic than Iran. Hosni Mubarak, who rules Egypt like an ancient pharaoh, is financed by billions of dollars of American foreign aid. American allies like the King of Morocco and the Emir of Kuwait are nearly absolute monarchs. The Bush administration even supports horrific despots like Islam Karimov, the potentate of Uzbekistan (whose secret police is as brutal as any in the world…including those of Saddam Hussein). How can we attack a semi-democracy like Iran while supporting violent and oppressive puppet-regimes across the breadth of the Middle East? This sort of double standard is well-known and much-discussed across the region, and it undermines the credibility of our foreign policy.

My goal is not to sugar-coat the Islamic Republic. There are numerous aspects of their governance, especially the judiciary and the police, which are undeniably authoritarian. But how many Americans are aware that women may vote and hold political office in Iran? How many Americans are aware that the president of Iran is a reformer who is intensely disliked by the conservative Islamist establishment? How many Americans are aware that religious minorities have guaranteed representation in the Iranian parliament, and that Judaism is far more tolerated there than in almost all of the Muslim nations which are currently subsidized as our "allies"? How many Americans are aware that there are Christian members of the Iranian parliament, while there are no Muslim members of the American Congress?

These are facts about which the American public must be made aware before they acquiesce to yet another disastrous "nation building" escapade in the Middle East.

If the neocons elect to attack Iran, they will be once again pouncing on a sovereign nation based on a blatant disregard for international law, our Constitution, and the beliefs of our Founding Fathers. Their attack will undoubtedly be preceded by a propaganda campaign based on lies, distortions, and fabricated intelligence (a process that will be enormously facilitated by the new "personnel changes" recently enacted at the CIA and the State Department).

While the Islamic Republic has its flaws, it is one of the few governments in the region which is at least partially representative of its people and which has the possibility of peacefully evolving into a more democratic system. Destroying it will not only blacken our reputation, it will also set back political liberalization in the Middle East for decades
 

OROSHI

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Kur ty nuk te intereson se kush jane ndjenjat e kombit tend,e cfare me intereson mu se kush asht Irani??Cfare i dha Irani botes moderne??
 

antares

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Sigurisht qe nuk me intereson se cfare mendojne trutharet dhe injorantet qe kane a-merd-iken ne zemer bile edhe perpara Shqiperise! Pikerisht se lepirja ndaj ketij monstruoziteti dhe murtaje qe eshte amerika perben rrezik per te ardhmen e vendit tim jam dhe ai qe jam!
Se cfare eshte Irani (Persia) dhe se cfare i ka dhene botes, merre si detyre shtepie te studiosh njecike histori para se te kerkosh gjakun e miljona njerezve!
Une nuk jam mesues vullnetar historie per ty ketu, keq me vjen po njeriu kulturen ne 75-80% e krijon vete duke lexuar libra e jo duke pare CNN, Foxin e Hollivudin!
 

OROSHI

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Une thashe :botes moderne
Perset 6 milion jane plako,te tjeret t'i kam fal,merri e mbaji afer se te ngrohin. /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

antares

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Po te lexosh me siper or tutkall per demokracine Iraniane do te shohesh qe ne Parlamentin e tyre ka ......parti Kristiane, Cifute etj. As "a-merd-ika" demokratike nuk ka aprti myslimane ne Kongres e Senat.
Ku e gjete ate 6 miljonshin?
 

OROSHI

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Tutkall tu baft ai qe te ka vesh nade :tipsy: ,me nga nje perfaqsues te komuniteteve te ndryshme kujton ti qe Mullaret do t'a ndreqin imazhin e keq qe kane??Mos ofendo plako, /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

antares

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Orosh! Ishte nje tutkall miqesor! Te ftoj edhe ty te me thuash mua tutkall!
Ne nje shtet te Afrikes Qendrore banoret hengren ambasadorin Gjerman, kur Gjermania protestoi ashper ata u penduan dhe i'u pergjigjen "Hani dhe ju Ambasadorin tone" Nejse, me fal.....
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

labi90

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a ju kujtohet kur ja pat bo Richard Hollbruku Lum Haxhiut ne Junik me 1998, "Millosheviqi e njeh vetem gjuhen e forces", mendoj se edhe kjo vlen per Iranin dhe ne pergjithsi per shtetet islamike, pra "ato e kuptojne vetem gjuhen e forces".
 

Kondrapedali

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Fillimisht postuar nga labi90:
[qb] a ju kujtohet kur ja pat bo Richard Hollbruku Lum Haxhiut ne Junik me 1998, "Millosheviqi e njeh vetem gjuhen e forces", mendoj se edhe kjo vlen per Iranin dhe ne pergjithsi per shtetet islamike, pra "ato e kuptojne vetem gjuhen e forces". [/qb]
Atë gjuhë kupton vetëm ti or QYQ. S'ke faj, serbi ta ka bo zakon që po s'të vrau ta vrasësh. Nuk njeh tjetër ai truni yt i limitum vetëm në veprimet më elementare të jetës. Megjithate këtu vijnë e diskutojnë nga më idiotët e deri tek specialistë të çështjeve në fjalë. Ti e gjen vetë tek cili grup hyn!
 

OROSHI

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Kondra,mos rri tuj ba krahasime Serbesh plako,je ma i dijshem se kaq /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif ,Irani ka 20 vjet qe po i ha bitha,tani ka ardh koha me ja djeg pak bithen se si shum ka marr yrysh,nji komb qe udhehiqet tash 25 vjet nga te njejten njerez sdiskutohet qe ka nevoje per ndryshime,jo me lufte,nuk jam dakord,por me zgjedhje te parakoheshme me perfaqsues/vezhgues nga OKB-ja!!!
 

Kondrapedali

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Fillimisht postuar nga OROSHI:
[qb] Kondra,mos rri tuj ba krahasime Serbesh plako,je ma i dijshem se kaq /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif ,Irani ka 20 vjet qe po i ha bitha,tani ka ardh koha me ja djeg pak bithen se si shum ka marr yrysh,nji komb qe udhehiqet tash 25 vjet nga te njejten njerez sdiskutohet qe ka nevoje per ndryshime,jo me lufte,nuk jam dakord,por me zgjedhje te parakoheshme me perfaqsues/vezhgues nga OKB-ja!!! [/qb]
Krahasimet me Serbin i baj veç me ata që s'njofin tjetër Orosh :shrug: !

Pra deri këtu jemi dakort. Lufta nuk është zgjidhja e konflikteve! Tani të shohim se si e mendon Bush kaubojsi /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif . Për Irakun e gjeti mashtrimin po për Iranin jam kurioz të shoh se cilën nga pistat që kanë lëshuar, do zgjedhin!
 

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Perderisa e gjeti per Irakun do e gjeje edhe per Iranin plako /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif ,pastaj,pse jemi ne,do e ndihmojme pak ne gjetjen e opcioneve(te papranueshme kuptohet),mjafton qe Mullaret te shprehen si Sadami:bashke me humbjen tone do marrim edhe boten me vehte /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif ,ne fakt Sadami iku ndersa bota mbeti,si per cudi :angel:
 

antares

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Orosh! do te te shpiem tek "mullaret" qe te te bejne synet! Pastaj tek irakenet qe te te bejne synet koken perfundimisht!
 

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Antares,me duket qe sindromi Francez(antiamerikanizmi) te ka pushtuar te gjithin!!Nuk e di se ku do te te shpjere mushka me gjithe ate urrejtje per nje komb, qe me e pakta ndihmoi Evropen ne ditet me te veshtira(ne kete rast Francezet jane bukeshkale),nuk ka rendesi se si e sheh ti LDB-ne,popujt atehere kishin nevoje per nje "dore" te ngrohte!!Cdo gje Amerikane e sheh me syze Islamike plako(pa e kuptuar as vete),te nisemi nga interesat me te vogla:ku ia pe ti Amerikes sherrin(si shqiptar them,apo vetequhesh internacionalist?),ti germon gjith diten vec te kapesh ndonje ndjenje/fjale/shkrim/derdellisje/vnere/ anti-amerikane,e ku do te te qoje ty kjo ndjenje e krijuar per nje komb???Mos ndoshta formimi yt politik ka filluar pikerisht tek urrejtja Amerikane??Nuk eshte problemi qe ti po merr anen e me te dobetit,problemi eshte qe ti JE komplet ne anen e se KEQES, te urresh nje vend demokratik(e bazuar ne 200 vjetet e fundit)dhe te bashkohesh me vende pa as me te voglen kulture demokratike,kesaj une i them lajthitje jo vetem nga trute por edhe nga kembet!!Krahasimet qe ben ti (kur eshte fjala per qeverine Amerikane)me gangstere/kriminela/viktima etj jane per mendimin tim komplet amatorllek dhe drejtim ne vetevrasje(urrejtja=kamikaz),sado qe te perpiqesh qe te mbjellesh urrejtje per Ameriken prapseprape (te pakten)Shqiptaret do dalin gjithmone me 90% pro-Amerikanizem!Nuk eshte problemi ketu,problemi eshte tek idete/endrrat/deshirat/fantazite tuaja(per ty jo per mu)ne lidhje me politiken/ekonomine/filozofine/sociologjine etj.Me te vertete me duket shume absurde urrejtja jote per nje qeveri(qeveria perfaqeson kombin)e cila, mire apo keq, perpiqet qe te mbroje interesat e veta por gjithashtu edhe te ndihmoje demokracite e brishta apo vendosjen e demokracive ne vendet ku ka shekuj qe zoterojne feudalizmi/tiranizmi e izma te tjere!!Tani,te kerkosh 100% sinqeritet ne politiken nderkombetare,kesaj i thone amatorizem!!!
Ne fund te fundit edhe sikur te jete ashtu sic thua ti(Amerikanet polic te botes,kapitaliste/imperialiste/janki/cifute/pushtues etj)kush je ti plako,Pol Poti/Enveri/Ho Shi Mini/Mao/Brezhnjevi(persa i perket urrejtjes Amerikane rradhitesh bashke me ata ).
Jepi Orosh te lumte dora :thumbsup:
 

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Mirmbrema djema.
me te verete pyes pse duhet thene qe ka shqiptare qe e lepijne ****** e SHBA apo qe e duan me shume se SHqiperine ...etjetj.
nuk eshte absolutish ashtu,nuk mund te quhet "dashuri".eshte menyra me e drejte per te shprehur ndjenjat ,aftesite,mendimet e shume e shume te tjera fjale,qe nuk po rri t'i shkruaj ketu,duke iu inspiruar ketij kombi te madh.kesaj demokracie,per tu marre shembull.
pse, ne vend qe te mbrojme nje "ideologji" qe per mendimmin tim eshte anadollake(ajo islamike),
te mos kerkojme nje tjeter me te re me pak brutale.ej te gjithe ata qe i jane kunder, e dine edhe ata vete qe SHBA jane forma gati e perkryer e demokracise.jane vendi ku njerezit kane mundesi te ndryshme per te krijuar nje jete.
pse te mendojme per Iranin e te tjere qe per ne dhe per SHqiperine jane larg ,shume larg.vende te vuajtura te varfra te rrenuara.me vjen keq pse ndodh keshtu???them qe kerkojne te terheqin vemendjen tone permes ketyre gjerave,qe bota e re do bente mire ti izolonte totalisht.ti bind me force kur ato ngrejne koken e piste.ato po kerkojne te infiltrojne brenda nesh te na mesojne e predikojne fene e tyre,nuk eshte e drejte.
imagjino sa "paster" do ishte kur ata nuk do e ndotnin sistemin tone!!!
SHqiperine e dua,e dashuroj!!!
 

labi90

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Nuk e di pse e mbroni Irakun dhe Iranin, sikur mu kone atdheu juaj.

ENIGMA

Procedamus in pace
In nomine Christi, Amen

Cum angelis et pueris,
fideles inveniamur

Attollite portas, principes, vestras
et elevamini, portae aeternales
et introibit rex gloriae
Qius est iste Rex glorie?

Sade, dis-moi,
Sade, donnes-moi

Procedamus in pace
In nomine Christi, Amen

Sade, dis-moi
Qu'est-ce que tu vas chercher?
le Bien par le Mal
la Vertu par le Vice
Sade, dis-moi, Pourquoi l'évangile du Mal?
Quelle est ta religion, Où sont tes fidèles?
Si tu es contre Dieu, tu es contre l'Homme

Sade dit moi pourquoi le sang pour le plaisir ?
Le plaisir sans l'amour.
N'y a t'il plus de sentiment dans le culte de l'homme ?

Sade, es-tu diabolique ou divin?

Sade, dis-moi
Hosanna
Sade, donnes-moi
Hosanna
Sade, dis-moi
Hosanna
Sade, donnes-moi
Hosanna

english translation

Let us go forth in peace
In the name of Christ, So be it

We shall find the faithful in the
company of angels and children

Lift up ye heads o ye glorious gates,
and be ye lifted up ye everlasting doors,
and the king of glory shall come in.
Who is the king of glory?

Sade tell me
Sade give me

Shall we proceed in peace
In the name of Christ, Amen

Sade tell me
what is it that you seek?
The rightness of wrong
The virtue of vice
Sade tell me why the Gospel of evil ?
What is your religion? Where are your faithful?
If you are against God, you are against man

Sade tell me why blood for pleasure?
Pleasure without love?
Is there no longer any feeling in man's Faith?

Sade are you diabolical or divine?

Sade tell me
Hosanna
Sade give me
Hosanna
Sade tell me
Hosanna
Sade give me
Hosanna

In the name of Christ, Amen
 

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Re: Re te zeza mbi Iran, Is Iran Next?

Nuk e di pse e mbroni Irakun dhe Iranin, sikur mu kone atdheu juaj.
E ke shumë gabim o Labi90. Kjo është ajo që nuk kupton ti. Të jesh kundër politikës së SH.B.A nuk do të thotë të jesh pro Irakut apo Iranit. Secili ka kusuret e veta por kjo nuk do të thotë që të mbështesim të këqiat e SH.B.A për të eliminuar të këqia më të vogla.
 
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