Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

abs

nuk e di...
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linos ky teksti lart ishte perkthimi i tekstit me lart, se paskam harru me e shkrujt /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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alinos

Forumium maestatis
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

e kuptova abs, por fakti qe me mendon dikush vetem shton dilemat: si me mendon: mire, keq, pa asnje lloj shije?!

Do te doja te provoja ndjesine se askush nuk mendon per mua, kjo do te me bente te padukshme (shume e merzitshme si ide) por do te me jepte me ne fund mundesine te rrija ne paqe me vetveten, pa nderhyrje, qofshin keto dhe pozitive...

Do shkruaj njehere tjeter, qe te mos them, gjera qe nuk dua t'i dije masa dhe as klasa (sa bukur kam filluar dhe nga rimat...)

Take care of yourself, ok?!

I'm gonna take some rest :sleep:
 

abs

nuk e di...
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

...por fakti qe me mendon dikush vetem shton dilemat:
si me mendon: mire, keq, pa asnje lloj shije?!


mbi kte `rruge`te jetes, mundohem te besoj ne Njenjen time,shpeshhere defenitioni i saj eshte i `ngaterruar`, per kte mendoj se eshte ndihmese nje `afersi` e madhe me `vehten`...

keshtuqe(`kjo antena` /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif )tregon masanej nepermjet ndijimit, te malli/te idhet/te embel/nervozitetit,e tc...se ne cilen `fushe mendimi` eshte ai tjetri /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Do te doja te provoja ndjesine se askush nuk mendon per mua, kjo do te me bente te padukshme (shume e merzitshme si ide) por do te me jepte me ne fund mundesine te rrija ne paqe me vetveten, pa nderhyrje, qofshin keto dhe pozitive...

un pervehte kur du me nejt ne paqe me vehten, i them te tjerve;
Ps,nje muaj s jam `ktu`!,dersa me merr malli per to /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
ndersa per te padukshmen do thoshja nganjehere eshte me e fuqishme se ajo e `dukshmja`...nejse
ka njerez qe bejne reaksion ne `laboratorin`tone athere `experimentet`e japin rezultatin ma vone...





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alinos

Forumium maestatis
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

Ah mi goc,
po te deftej nje histori qe ma plasen ne turi para pak kohe:

ne nje ambjent te larte intelektual, nje femer terhiqet nga dikush me te cilin ka marredhenie varesie. Femra mjaft e zgjuar, e vecante ne llojin e vet, ndersa mashkulli autoritet ne ambjentin qe frekuentonin te dy.
Femra filloi te jepte shenja pelqimi te dukshme, qe ne fillim u priten me buzeqeshje nga mashkulli, i cili me shoqeri (ajo qe ma tregoi) pranoi se ne fillim ndjehej i perkedhelur, dhe te pelqehej nga ajo ishte nje lloj vleresimi, qe ja bente qefin goxha...
Mirepo insistimi i kesaj u kthye ne nje mani, e cila e lodhi mashkullin i cili per te evituar situata te papelqyeshme, si edhe per te mos e ofenduar femren, i largohet kesaj te fundit dhe ka me te vetem marredhenie formale, dhe sa me pak qe te jete e mundur.
Rezultati ishte kriza paranoje, qe me ose pa vetedije kane si qellim te terheqin vemendjen e mashkullit dhe frika per ndonje sjellje te cmendur.


Une e degjova deri ne fund kete histori abs dhe u menova. Mu kujtu historia e kenges se Celentanos Per averti, ku ai thote se do te bente gjithcka per dashuri, por jo te humbte respektin per veten. Personi me lart, jo vetem respektin, por ka humbur komplet nocionin e realitetit, me nje fjale ka humbur gjithe veten. Une nuk di se si do te dale, di vetem se me vjen keq!
Di gjithashtu se nese strumbullari i IF (dashuria me i llaf) eshte kaq e rrezikshme, do te doja te mos ekzistonte dhe vete do preferoja te mos e provoja aspak.
Terheqje fizike e mendore eshte nje gje, dhe argetimi qe vjen me to nje gje tjeter, por qe prezenca e tjetrit te kushtezoje jeten dhe te heqi gjumin e nates, eshte njelloj si ta denosh veten me vdekje.
E di se influenca e individualizmit perendimor eshte e mbrujtur ne mendimet e mia, por mendoj se do jetoj vetem nje here, dhe nuk mund ta kushtezoj qetesine time shpirterore tek dikush tjeter. E keshtu dalim tek titulli i temes:
Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten por duke evituar te keqijat e saj po!
:rockband:
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
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You think you know what the voices I hear are?! There is a darkness in me that I, and only I can see and understand.
Virginia Wolf
 

Danae

Primus registratum
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

kjo lidhet me gatimin e nje personi,dhe me lidhjet qe formohen mes tyre,vetekontrolli eshte gje e cmuar tek njerezit,por sinqerisht me keqardhje preferoj te them se dashurova dhe humba dashurine nje nga gjerat me te rendesishme te jetes(sime),sesa te evitoja gjithe rreziqet apriori <=> nuk gjen paqen duke evituar jeten.
Jeta e pare ne nje kendveshtrim miksesh.
 

bobo

marksist-enverist
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cilat do ishin ato te "keqia" ,ne vetvehte, qe duhet te evitojm per te ndjer paqen?
ti i ve briret dashuris, nga ana tjeter ke frik nga IF, apo ISH (me i shikim /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif ).
individualiteti perendimor, s`esht gje tjeter vetem gjetje e paqes larg njerezve, dhe qe merr pamje perverze sipas rastit /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif .,-mendim i imi!!!
kurse sa i perket shembullit:
me gjith vecantit e rastit, ne pergjithsi sesht gje tjeter vecse nje "instinkt" modern me prioritet interesin, karrieren, ose...(si njof personazhet, un po flas ne pergjithesi :angel: )

ali, duke i vene kondita paqes, sna mbetet gje tjeter vecse te marrim arratin nga njerezit :devil: , pra te vdesim per se gjalli, dhe marrim vetem funksionin metabolik /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif
ose behemi preh e proceseve nvetvete, duke u shendruar ne personazhe ... :cry:
 

Ema

Goddes
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

Alinose sa me te rrezikshem jane strumbullaret,aq me fort na terheqin.Gjerat qe i merr thjesht e pa lodhje nuk te terheqin.
Une do preferoja dashurine,(si thote danae),do preferoja ti jepja dikujt nje shans tjeter,te kerkoja deri ne fund te shpetoja ndjenja qe nuk lindin cdo dite.

Jo,paqja nuk gjendet duke evituar as jeten e as vdekjen.Paqja qendron ne krahet e njeriut te dashur,ne qetsine shpirterore,ne madheshtine e besimit....

Dashurofshi mire!

Ema
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
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My life closed twice before its close

MY life closed twice before its close--
It yet remains to see
If Immortality unveil
A third event to me

So huge, so hopeless to conceive
As these that twice befell.
Parting is all we know of heaven,
And all we need of hell.

Emily Dickinson

Dashurofsh mire ti, heren tjeter...
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
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There is a darkness in me, that I and only I can see and understand...
I was once looking at all this darkness of mine and thought terrified for a moment that I was empty. That is how I stood in front of my darkness, not yet daring to glance beyong. The darkness stood still, too.
Finally, I decided I wanted to see that beyond, that was torturing me so much. They say there are answers we would never wish to know, though we keep asking the questions. I have given up many of those believing time will intervene at due time and respond on my behalf to all of them.
Yet, there was this darkness of mine, I needed to know about in order to calm my spirits and be able to behave accordingly.
I threw a stone towards my darkness, and received that on my head hurting me. I yelled to it, and received no echo, jut air stream blowing on my face, and I realized that my darkness was far from empty, it was, in fact, full.

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Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

The question is fair and mighty if you wanted peace. And from what i observe daily everyone wants peace, they pray for peace, they take St Johns wart for peace, they chain their bodies together in front of the police for peace, and with innocent devestation turn their puppy gaze at the Tv cameras when they are hit in their bubbly buttocks with "sacme plastike". I had a neighbour who went and drank her morning coffe in a dingy corner of her musty basement, because she wanted some damn Paqe, from those incomodious creatures she called niper dhe mbesa. You see i was thinking(or going through a routine of trying to connect together every concept that contains the word peace in it) about this monumental existentialst question, how to achieve peace, but then i was struck, or more precisely smacked with full force by my other self (the one whom I believe is Hypnotyically Enslaved to "How to books"). Why the F*%@ do you want peace you dumb shqiptarke? You see she put me in selamet, cause my only reason was that Paqja seemed e kendshme, and that coudn't be a plausible reason, could it? You see i never had paqe, the closest i came to was in a beach somewhere in the outskirts of kerkyra, when i took my bikini top off and let the sun do as he pleased with me. That lasted about 1 minute, and then being a good role model for my race, i started using my highly evolved and fertile brain. What if by chance someone passed by and saw me, what if he was albanian? What if this albanian knew my uncle, what if he told another albanian who knew that my uncle was the son of his mother's Kafe shoqe. What if his mother told my garandmother, and my grandmother told my father, and my father cut my allowance. No wait i didn't have an allowance, but the retribution would be equally "devestating" for me. So you see, i reached out and put my top back on, and hasta la vista paqe. I found out that my Paqe was woven in an intricate way with those sorrounding me. And in order for me to have some Paqe, either i had to get rid of all of them (which would not do me any good cause my highly trained consience would not let me find Paqe anyways), or i would have to wait for that one moment in eternity when all of my and their convictions were on the same page. It didn't end here! I figured after I put my top on that Paqja would come flying in. Ncuq! Gabim again! After 5 minutes of Paqje or more precisely nothingness, i started to warm up my brain again. So how come Krokodilat have not fallen into the web of evolution, why can't i solve the Reimann Hypothesis, why didn't Chris call, is it because of what i said before i left? I knew I was stupid! God why am I so stupid! Ughhh I hate this shit! So that was it for Paqja again, any moment that i found it i couldn't attain it, because i invariably mendoja. But then i Figured i would shtyj my mendime a little further. If I have never had peace (spiritual), then why did i want it? And then What the Dreq was Paqja anyways? In order to have this Paqja then do you have to cease thinking, or marry Doc. Phill and "take the timoni of your jeta"?

I mean cause really like I find this disscusion like utterly engrossing, but i think we have to start it off with like key concepts. Like what is Paqja?
And why why why do you want it? Don't you think it would become boring after a while?
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

Nelk@ great attempt :thumbsup:

I am actually, not looking for resolving the Paqja issue, just dropping thoughts about it, at different moments of life.
I do, ne fakt, think that Paqja without mendje will be boring :sleep:
 

jona20

big bum bam...
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

atehere paqja mbetet thjesht nje iluzion /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 

abs

nuk e di...
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...Celentanos Per averti, ku ai thote se do te bente gjithcka per dashurine, por jo te humbte respektin per veten...

te besh gjithcka per dashurine tende duke mos humbur (respektin per vehten/duke mos humbur Vehten)
...do te thote te kalosh neper `tunelin e erret`e kur te mberrish ne anen tjeter, athere respekton/vlerson vehten dhe jeten...


(besoj se kte faze fatale e ka provuar shume kush ne permasa te ndryshme dhimbje, si dhe ai/ajo per te cilet vuan tjetri, por ai/ajo per dike tjeter)...

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...`arkitekti` i `hapsires`tende je vec ti...
 

durrsakja

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Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

Fillimisht postuar nga zevzekja:
[qb] atehere paqja mbetet thjesht nje iluzion /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif [/qb]
E kisha fjalen per Paqen ne bote! Po iluzion, megjithse kontributet dhe heronjte e Paqes nuk jane pak....eshte e veshtire te shohen anen e ndritur te realitetit sot.

Sa per Paqen e brendshme, mua me duket se e kam gjetur...po me duket se jam bere ca egoiste...ose thjesht me e forte.
 

bobo

marksist-enverist
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hi,te gjithve /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
edhe nje dit ne Jetë! /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif

nejse,nisemi nga shkaqet qe si ndjejm apo se vrasim mendjen; sa jemi larg nga vdekja?!!
dhe ngaqe desha tia them dhe dikujt(???), spo i gjej fjalet... :ne c`gjuh thuhet me bukur(???); i(e) dashur - vdekjen e shof ne syt e tu!

eshte nje sfid te cilen se ndjejm , por e shofin, dhe na mban ne jete!, sdu te di per arsyet, du te di se cesht vdekja??!-,po thoshte "X",-frika nga jeta na shtyn tmendojm mbi vdekjen?!!, apo jemi qenie me aresye, dhe e dim qe kemi per te vdekur!??, prandaj mendojm dhe ne vdekje.

nejse, crendesi ka!,-vazhdoj X-i.
nje moment perben gjith jeten; jetojm kaq shum me nje perjetim te vogel!, te cilin aty do ta leme, ku e jetuam...

...tha X-i, dhe qeshi leht-, dua te jetoj dhe nje ...

sa afer te kam??! /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif :devil: :angel:
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

nje moment perben gjith jeten; jetojm kaq shum me nje perjetim te vogel!, te cilin aty do ta leme, ku e jetuam...

...tha X-i, dhe qeshi leht-, dua te jetoj dhe nje ...


ja tha ja tha, po kujt ja tha se?!

...e kishte mire, sidoqofte /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif /pf/images/graemlins/smile.gif

p.s. Homi shpresoj se nuk shikon vdekjen ne syte e dikujt qe do /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 

bobo

marksist-enverist
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

ali, syt` qe i dua me shtyjn te vdes,ose qe te ndjej vdekjen!,-se ato qe i urrej ,me bejn te jetoj, me zor ose me hater /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif !-vazhdoi "X"-i.
e, kujt ja tha?!! /pf/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 

alinos

Forumium maestatis
Re: Nuk gjen dot paqen duke evituar jeten!

Hajt te ham te dy i sallat me ullinj, qep te njoma dhe limon se na ban me harru vdekjen dhe ...syte /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif /pf/images/graemlins/smile.gif

p.s. :kiss:
 
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