IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Pse... ?

Sepse :

- Nuk udhehiqet me nga nje diktator gjakpires si Sadami.

-Diktatori nuk do ikte vete dhe per kete u deshen sakrifica , sakrificat u bene , dhe pas ketyre vejn shperblimi qe eshte liria dhe demokracia . Sigurshte liria dhe demokracia nuk konsolidohen per nje dite, nje muaj apo nje vite duhen vite dhe perpjekje.
Por rruga drejt tyre filloi qe ne momentin kur u rrezua gjakpiresi.

- Irakienet po e ndihmojne dhe perkrahin qeverine e re.

- Irakienet nuk i duan terroristet dhe fondamentalistet islamike te cilet vrane me qindra dhe mijera te pafajshem .
Irakienet e kuptojne se terrorizmi i fondamentalisteve islamike eshte edhe me i pergjakshem se regjimi diktatorial i SADAMIT.

- Irakienet po shkojne drejte suksesit se iu dha rasti qe te shihnin driten dhe drita triumfon mbi terrin.
 

Indulgence

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Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Jo more ados, te shuhet Fondamentalizmi Islamik he? Po s'te le Antares se. Do thote ai: Femrat islamike nuk po ankohen. Ato e duan dhunen dhe kete lifestyle kane zgjedhur. Kush je ti qe s'te pelqen dhuna, injoranca dhe varferia? Amerikan i degjeneruar? Pse mos shuhet civilizimi perendimor, he? C'te keqe ka ta kthejme rroten e historise mbrapa?
 

gentilushi

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

pse cfare do behemi ne don kishote e??
ne te gjitha shtetet islamike te liberalizohet ligji i sheriatit ku te thote qe secili mund te zgjedhe fene qe deshiron tamam si ne turqi
 

gurax

Pan ignoramus
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Indulgence, sa mire qe ne Izrael edhe femrat bejne 2 vjet ushtri. /pf/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif


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"I'm in awe, Lennier. The way you can take a straightforward, logical proposition and turn it inside-out so that in the end it says .. what you want it to say instead of what it actually means. Does this come naturally or did you .. attend some special martial arts class for the philosophically inclined?" -- Marcus, Babylon 5
 

Indulgence

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Prandaj fshihesh ne Bunker ti Gurax-o /pf/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 

gurax

Pan ignoramus
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Mua s'me ngjisin izraelitet keshtu qe s'e gjete. /pf/images/graemlins/tongue.gif


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"I'm in awe, Lennier. The way you can take a straightforward, logical proposition and turn it inside-out so that in the end it says .. what you want it to say instead of what it actually means. Does this come naturally or did you .. attend some special martial arts class for the philosophically inclined?" -- Marcus, Babylon 5
 

assassino26

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Fillimisht postuar nga INDULGENCE:
[qb] Jo more ados, te shuhet Fondamentalizmi Islamik he? Po s'te le Antares se. Do thote ai: Femrat islamike nuk po ankohen. Ato e duan dhunen dhe kete lifestyle kane zgjedhur. Kush je ti qe s'te pelqen dhuna, injoranca dhe varferia? Amerikan i degjeneruar? Pse mos shuhet civilizimi perendimor, he? C'te keqe ka ta kthejme rroten e historise mbrapa? [/qb]
Edhe e thote ai...S'ka turp.Ai me gjithe amarin kane ca ide brilante qe o zot o zot :smash:
 

OROSHI

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Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Mos krahasoni Antares me Amarin,nuk kane asgje te perbashket,me sa ka inteligjenca me injorancen!!!
 

u74

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Fillimisht postuar nga OROSHI:
[qb] Mos krahasoni Antares me Amarin,nuk kane asgje te perbashket,me sa ka inteligjenca me injorancen!!! [/qb]
Cili eshte me injoranti ?


Falluja rrugice me rrugice po bie ne duart e forcave te koalicionit, ku po gjinden prova te terroristeve qe kane perdorur Fallujan si baze per te mbajtur dhe ekzekutuar pengjet dhe per te sulmuar qeverine e re te Irakut .
Keshtu kemi edhe nje sukses tjeter te qeverise se Irakut dhe focave te koalicionit.
Rrethi i terroristeve po zvoglohet gjithnje e me shume .
 

gentilushi

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

po po zvogelohet.po zvogelohet nje mut.ku jane pra terroristet??po jua presin kokat dite per dite njerezve.apo nuk shef lajme ti me fal?

down with the old.down with america.we need a new power and europe will be. /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

OROSHI

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Joe,jane gjetur dhomat e torturimit dhe prerjes se kokave ne Falluxha,persa i perket gjetjes se terroristeve,ata i ke te ngordhur rrugeve te Falluxhas,600 muter jane gjithsejt,pjesa tjeter do i ndjeke shum shpejt nga pas!!
 

antares

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Kapi Orosh kapi! se ca kane vajtur ne Mosul dhe qoftelarg na vijne nizamet ne qese te zeza! Edhe vete te zotet e punes, terroristet amerikane e pranojne se shumica ju ka ikur prej shalesh dhe pritet intensifikimi gjithandej i aksioneve guerrile per shporjen e 138 000 muterve te vertete!
 

gurax

Pan ignoramus
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Disa opinione lidhur pikerisht me ceshtjen e suksesit te luftes ne Irak. Disa prej tyre une po i postoj te perkthyera, por origjinalet si dhe pjesen me te madhe te ketyre komenteve mund ta gjeni ketu.



Kam folur me nje grua irakene ne Irlande dje e cila nuk ka qene ithtare e Sadamit dhe e cila humbi nje moter ne bombardimet e gushtit. Ajo u shpreh qe gjithcka qe po ndodh eshte hedhje hi syve ne shkalle boterore dhe shkaterrimi i panevojshem i nje vendi te bukur. Per asnje arsye ajo nuk i sheh ngjarjet ne te mire te popullit te saj. Cfare duhet bere qe te shporrim nga bota kete imperializem te pashpirt me kulturen dhe filozofine e tij "ta martoj mamin"?
- Brian Smyth, Meath - Ireland -


Nuk mund ta besoj cfare po ndodh. Kjo eshte nje lufte sa e panevojshme aq dhe imorale. Ne emer te Zotit, cfare ka bere populli iraken qe te meritoje tere kete? Sadamin e kapem, pse duhet ta pushtojme vendin? Per hir te vte pushtimit dhe detyrimit qe tu japim me cdo kusht menyren tone te qeverrisjes me menyren me brutale si dhe qe te sigurojme nafte per pasurimin e Halliburton? Zoti na ndihmofte ne te tereve.
- John Zaragoza, Garden City, USA -


Ky nuk eshte operacion paqeje, perkundrazi. Eshte nje menyre per te armiqesuar jo vetem irakenet por cdo popull, qe nuk beson ne dhunen dhe masakrimin e viktimave te pafajshme per te sjelle nje demokraci fallco dhe nje liri te rreme.
- Edoarda Paolini, Milan, Italy -


Mendova se ishte fjala per nje Irak pa udheheqes qe bombaron popullin e tij. Allawi jo vetem qe shihet si nje drejtues kukull i Amerikes, por madje si dikush jo shume i ndryshem nga Sadami. Duke rithene fjalet e George Orwell tek 'Animal Farm', "Irakenet i pane me rradhe Sadamin, Bushin e me pas Allawin dhe s'munden te dallojne ndonje ndryshim."
- Andrew Hirst, Leeds, UK -


Ta mbarojme sa me shpejt kete qe kemi filluar.
- Angus Bearn, Blackheath, London, UK -


Nga BBCArabic.com: Nese do te ishte Sadami ne fuqi sot dhe do te fillonte nje sulm te tille ndaj nje qyteti iraken, jam shume kurioz te di se cfare do te thoshin ne kete rast Bush dhe Allawi?
- Sattar Saeed, Baghdad, Iraq -



Dhe ketu nje pershkrim i shkurter per te kuptuar se kunder kujt luftojne "luanet".
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"Ne kete moment, besimi eshte mjaft me i forte sesa familja"

Do te cuditej njeri sikur
"The ordinary people of Falluja still want a peaceful solution - but they knew war was inevitable when Prime Minister Iyad Allawi issued his ultimatum earlier this week.
That's when they started stocking up on food.

The people believe they are being targeted because they inflicted heavy casualties on US forces during the siege earlier this year.
They say the Americans are attacking them because of wounded pride. They say they are motivated by revenge.

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zog

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

un them lufta eshte pozitive per te gjithe, edhe per irakianet, bile ata e kane kuptu si duhet prandaj luftojne, nuk di pse qaheni ju ketu.

mos harroni se ne perdorim per te shkruar ketu, bile dhe per te njohur tmerret e luftes, pikerisht teknollogjine e krijuar POSAÇERISHT per te. ja pra nje nga te mirat e saj.

merrini gjerat pozitivisht o njerez, nje dite amerika do largohet dhe iraku do lartesohet duke u mbeshtetur tek heronjte e luftes, viktimat e sotshme.

si tjeter nje popull "morracak" mund te lartesohet.
 

OROSHI

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Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Antares,pse gjith Talibanet fute ti??Une mendova qe mund te ishin disa mijera Jordaneze/Saudite/Afgane/Palestineze/Sudaneze/Somaleze te cilet ne mungese te nje shtepije/familje/ekonomije/toke/pare/bomba/mina/kallashe/pushke me gjalme etj,shkuan ne Irak per t'i gjetur :tipsy: ,kur vjen puna cfar gjeten aty??Doren e hekurt te daj Samit /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

gurax

Pan ignoramus
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Nese per te luftuar terrorizmin eshte e nevojshme te bombardohet me themel nje qytet i tere, i bie qe dhe ne Irlanden e Veriut te zgjidhej ceshtja duke bombarduar Belfastin. Ose ndoshta kemi te bejme me racizem te kamufluar me rastin e vleres mjaft te ulet te jeteve te popullit iraken. Jeta e tyre ndoshta s'eshte me po te njejten vlere si jeta e komshiut qe kane perballe ose te afermve qe kane ne shtepi, ose cdo individi qe s'ka faj. Jo, ne Irak dhe aktualisht Falluja jane te tere terroriste, le te vdesin si qener.
Dhe ata qe e mendojne si te tille jane po ata qe trumbetojne me ze te larte emancipimin dhe shoqerine e tyre te zgjeruar me individet me ngjyre dhe ata qe te quajne te paemancipuar kur shpreh bezdine qe zezaket qelben ere.


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"I'm in awe, Lennier. The way you can take a straightforward, logical proposition and turn it inside-out so that in the end it says .. what you want it to say instead of what it actually means. Does this come naturally or did you .. attend some special martial arts class for the philosophically inclined?" -- Marcus, Babylon 5
 

109UV

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Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

edhe une mendoj qe eshte e drejta jote si intelektual shqiptar qe te shprehesh sa here qe ke mundesi qe ti mendon qe zezaket qelben ere; gjithashtu duhet te protestosh kunder shtypjes se mendimit tend te lire prej intelektuali shqiptar kur te kritikojne per shprehje te tilla injorance.
 

antares

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Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

Po "Irakezet" c'thone? Orosh! nuk thuhet Irakezet po Irakenet!

Rule of Iraq Assassins Must End...

I'm not feeling well - it's a combination of the change of weather and the decline in the situation. Eid is less than a week away but no one is feeling at all festive. We're all worried about the situation in Falloojeh and surrounding regions. We've ceased worrying about the explosions in Baghdad and are now concerned with the people who have left their homes and valuables and are living off of the charity of others.

Allawi declared a "State of Emergency" a couple of days ago... A state of emergency *now* - because previous to this week, we Iraqis were living in an American made Utopia, as the world is well aware. So what does an "Emergency State" signify for Iraqis? Basically, it means we are now *officially* more prone to being detained, raided, and just generally abused by our new Iraqi forces and American ones. Today they declared a curfew on Baghdad after 10 p.m. but it hasn't really made an impact because people have stopped leaving their houses after dark anyway.

The last few days have been tense and heart-rending. Most of us are really worried about Falloojeh. Really worried about Falloojeh and all the innocents dying and dead in that city. There were several explosions in Baghdad these last few days and hardly any of them were covered by the press. All this chaos has somehow become uncomfortably normal. Two years ago I never would have dreamed of living like this- now this lifestyle has become the norm and I can barely remembering having lived any other way.

My cousin kept the kids home from school, which is happening quite often. One of the explosions today was so close, the house rocked with the impact and my cousin's wife paled, "Can you imagine if the girls had been at school when that happened- I would have died."

Dozens of civilians have died these last few days in Ramadi, Falloojeh, and Samarra. We are hearing about complete families being killed under the rain of bombs being dropped by American forces. The phone lines in those areas seem to be cut off. We've been trying to call some relatives in Ramadi for the last two days, but it's next to impossible. We keep getting that dreadful busy tone and there's just no real way of knowing what is going on in there. There is talk of the use of cluster bombs and other forbidden weaponry.

We're hearing various stories about the situation. The latest is that 36 American troops have been taken prisoner along with dozens of Iraqi troops. How do people feel about the Iraqi troops? There's a certain rage. It's difficult to sympathize with a fellow-countryman while he's killing one of his own. People generally call them "Dogs of Occupation" here because instead of guarding our borders or securing areas, they are used to secure American forces. They drive out in front of American cars in order to clear the roads and possibly detonate some of those road mines at a decent distance from the American tanks. At the end of the day, most of them are the remnants of militias and that's the way they act.

And now they are being used in Falloojeh against other Iraqis. The whole situation is making me sick and there's a fury building up. The families in Falloojeh have been relegated to living in strange homes and mosques outside of the city... many of them are setting up their families inside of emptied schools and municipal buildings in Samarra and neighboring areas. Every time I see Allawi on tv talking about his regrets about 'having to attack Falloojeh' I get so angry I could scream. He's talking to the outside world, not to us. Iraqis don't buy his crap for a instant. We watch him talk and feel furious and frustrated with our new tyrant.

I was watching CNN this morning and I couldn't get the image of the hospital in Falloojeh being stormed by Iraqi and American troops out of my head- the Iraqis being made to lay face-down on the ground, hands behind their backs. Young men and old men... and then the pictures of Abu Ghraib replay themselves in my mind. I think people would rather die than be taken prisoner by the Americans.

The borders with Syria and Jordan are also closed and many of the highways leading to the borders have been blocked. There are rumors that there are currently 100 cars ready to detonate in Mosul, being driven by suicide bombers looking for American convoys. So what happens when Mosul turns into another Falloojeh? Will they also bomb it to the ground? I heard a report where they mentioned that Zarqawi 'had probably escaped from Falloojeh'... so where is he now? Mosul?

Meanwhile, Rumsfeld is making his asinine remarks again,

"There aren't going to be large numbers of civilians killed and certainly not by U.S. forces,"

No- there are only an 'estimated' 100,000 civilians in Falloojeh (and these are American estimations). So far, boys and men between the ages of 16 and 60 aren't being counted as 'civilians' in Falloojeh. They are being rounded up and taken away. And, *of course* the US forces aren't going to be doing the killing: The bombs being dropped on Falloojeh don't contain explosives, depleted uranium or anything harmful- they contain laughing gas- that would, of course, explain Rumsfeld's idiotic optimism about not killing civilians in Falloojeh. Also, being a 'civilian' is a relative thing in a country occupied by Americans. You're only a civilian if you're on their side. If you translate for them, or serve them food in the Green Zone, or wipe their floors- you're an innocent civilian. Everyone else is an insurgent, unless they can get a job as a 'civilian'.

So this is how Bush kicks off his second term. More bloodshed.

"Innocent civilians in that city have all the guidance they need as to how they can avoid getting into trouble,"

How do they do that Rumsfeld? While tons of explosives are being dropped upon your neighborhood, how do you do that? Do you stay inside the house and try to avoid the thousands of shards of glass that shoot out at you from shattering windows? Or do you hide under a table and hope that it's sturdy enough to keep the ceiling from crushing you? Or do you flee your house and pray to God you don't come face to face with an Apache or tank or that you aren't in the line of fire of a sniper? How do you avoid the cluster bombs and all the other horror being dealt out to the people of Falloojeh?

There are a couple of things I agree with. The first is the following:

"Over time you'll find that the process of tipping will take place, that more and more of the Iraqis will be angry about the fact that their innocent people are being killed..."

He's right. It is going to have a decisive affect on Iraqi opinion- but just not the way he thinks. There was a time when pro-occupation Iraqis were able to say, "Let's give them a chance..." That time is over. Whenever someone says that lately, at best, they get a lot of nasty looks... often it's worse. A fight breaks out and a lot of yelling ensues... how can one condone occupation? How can one condone genocide? What about the mass graves of Falloojeh? Leaving Islam aside, how does one agree to allow the murder of fellow-Iraqis by the strongest military in the world?

The second thing Rumsfeld said made me think he was reading my mind:

"Rule of Iraq assassins must end..." I couldn't agree more: Get out Americans.
 

labi90

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

I uroj Amerikes suksese sikur ne Fallugje per mposhtjen e terroristeve! Atyre duhet japur nje leksion te qarte e per mendimin tim leksioni eshte jape.
 

antares

Primus registratum
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

O ta lumsha sintaksen ty (je serb qe sapo ke mesuar shqipen apo cfare)? Megjithese nga ngjyra e postimeve nuk ka mundesi se serbet nuk i shohin dot me sy amerikanet!
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Atyre duhet japur nje leksion te qarte e per mendimin tim leksioni eshte jape
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duhet japur -----> duhet dhene
leksioni eshte jape------->leksioni eshte dhene

Sot leksinin ta japa pa pare po jo neser, japja e leksioneve do me pare japet!
 

gurax

Pan ignoramus
Re: IRAKU - Dalengadale po kthehet ne nje histori suksesi .

:lol:

Labi90, nese nuk e kuptove cfare u tha me siper.. A mendon ti qe serbi japi mesimi ne Kosove shqiptareve?


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"I'm in awe, Lennier. The way you can take a straightforward, logical proposition and turn it inside-out so that in the end it says .. what you want it to say instead of what it actually means. Does this come naturally or did you .. attend some special martial arts class for the philosophically inclined?" -- Marcus, Babylon 5
 
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