Dashuri me zezake?

Anglophile

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Fillimisht postuar nga Danae:
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Fillimisht postuar nga shqipo:
[qb]
Po zezakt edhe ne kenget "hip hop" qe kendojne dhe degjojne me shume, e shprehin se cfare kulture kane, ne shumicen e tyre degjon fjale banale si "motherf*cker" etj.. Ca te tham une?


Ne cilat raca tjera degjon kenge me fjale te tilla? [/qb]
po ti nuk e ke nigju ate kengen e nje grupi kosovar qe kendon:eek: llokum tundi b***et se kur te vij une du te jesh ne maksimun per a sweet fuckiness".
shqiptaret jane kta,gabelt e europes.
lene mas te flasim per nje tjeter qe themi :jemi rrace arixhinjsh!!! [/qb]
Nuk e kam degjuar. Po mu me duket se ka shume dallim me fjalen "neneq*m", apo e kam gabim.
Kurse kete kangen tjeter do ta kendojne ndonje grup nga elbasani <img src="/pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> , tham une.
 

qafiri

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Fillimisht postuar nga 'Neo':
[qb] kisha une.... [/qb]
te pelqen?
they CAN rap,cant they?
TINGULLI 3 ESHTE
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DHE nuk do te thote qe pse perdorin nje gjuhe pak vulgare,ti mund ti krahasosh me zezaket.
 

olti

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Me te doja thjesht te thoja se nuk mund te gjykohet nje grup i tere njerezor per menyren se si kendon.
 

Anglophile

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Zezakt i kane ne mase keto lloj kengesh, dhe kjo nuk mund te justifikohet me nje apo disa kenge kosovaro-shqiptare ( 'po tham keshtu se kosovart ne pergjithesi duan te bejne vet dallim prej nesh'). Po te justifikoheshin keshtu si mendoni ju gjerat, do dalin e gjithe bota njelloj. Kenga edukaten dhe kulturen tregon, &quot;si te atij qe e kendon dhe si te atij qe e degjon&quot;. Po nuk u shit ai CD me at kenge, do te thote se populli nuk ka at edukate dhe kulture, se po ta kishte do ta pelqente dhe do te ishin me &quot;popullore&quot;, siq i kane zezakt. <span style="font-style: italic">Mos isha gje jashte teme?</span>

Si ka mundesi qe asnje femer nuk po del te na thote se nuk e kam problem per eren e zezakut ( 'qe i ka provuar kuptohet')? Se ata/o qe thone se nuk kane ere ja fusin kot me hamendje.
 

b.k.

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une nuk e kam problem eren e njerezve me ngjyre. KAm pasur tre shoke te ngushte, dhe kam qene aq prane tyre sa te flas me siguri qe nuk kane ere...

Shoqja ime e ngushte, eshte skoceze dhe e martuar me nje djale me ngjyre. dei me sot nuk me ka raportuar asgje te vecante pervecse eshte shume e lumtur dhe se nuk shikon ndonje dallim nga te dashurit jo me ngjyre qe nuk ka patur me perpara (porvec faktit se i shoqi kercen klas)
 

Anglophile

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Ndoshta kane qene me rroba dhe kane pas hedhe parfum, dhe ti nuk ke pas nga t'ia dallosh eren. Fol per vete se te tjeret ndoshta te genjejne, se kan turp.
 

glaukus

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Ja edhe disa mite dhe te verteta ... mqs disa dine edhe anglisht ... lexoni origjinalin e disa temave, sidomos te krishteret (te me falin muslimanet):

This sort of situation is not confined to social circles but religious circles have played a role also. Starting with the Babylonian Talmud. Jewish Historian, Dr.Harold D.Brackman of the Simon Wiesenthal Center wrote in his 1977 UCLA Ph.D. dissertation &quot;The Ebb and Flow of Conflict: A History of Black Jewish Relations Through 1900&quot; -pg.80. &quot;<span style="font-style: italic">There is no denying that the Babylonian Talmud was the first source to read a Negro phobic content into the episode</span>&quot;. What does this have to do with basketball players and their lack of penis control you ask? Let's look a little closer and explore the whole Hamitic Myth. The Hamitic Myth alleges that God, through the biblical Noah, cursed African People for all eternity, made them black and ugly, endowed them with thick lips, big red eyes, kinky hair and for the men- elongated penises&quot;.
This Talmud doctrine is insulting to all black people but the latter half of it leaves Black males grinning ....


Debat:

a---[Racial 'barriers' along with human government and language differences were established to forestall a one world anti-God religion/government under the control of Satan at the time. Nevertheless this will be accomplished shortly in accordance with God's sovereign plan not man's. In the absence of outright forbidding of interracial dating/marriages and in the light of the sovereign plan of God which permits Satan to accomplish a one-world order and in light of the private priesthood of the individual, perhaps this interdictive is out of line coming as it does from the University and not from God Himself through His Word or from the individual in the exercise of his personal priesthood]


God permitted interacial marriages in the past without condemnation, not the least of which is that of Solomon and the Queen of Sheba as indicated in detail in the Song of Solomon - without mention of any condemnation; Abraham and Keturah; (Gen 25); Moses and Zipporah, (Ex 2:22); Ruth, a Moabite woman, (who is in the genealogy of our Lord, [Mt 1:1:5]), and Boaz; and a number of other marriages in Ruth's family, (Book of Ruth)].

b--- Although there is no verse in the Bible that dogmatically says that races should not intermarry, the whole plan of God as He has dealt with the races down through the ages indicates that <span style="font-weight: bold">interracial marriage is not best for man</span>. We do believe we see principles, not specific verses, to give us direction for the avoidance of it.

a-- [Principles in the bible must come from verses, otherwise there are no principles at all, that is a given. So if there are no verses relative to this situation then there are no principles.
The statement, 'interracial marriage is not best for man', historically is also inconclusive, there is more strife evident among peoples of like race for any number of reasons. Differences among people re: races, faith, language often causes hatred and desire to subue or eradicate - the sin nature, the devil and the world are active in all scenarios]

b-- The people who built the Tower of Babel were seeking a man-glorifying unity which God has not ordained (Gen. 11:4-6). Much of the agitation for intermarriage among the races today is for the same reason. It is promoted by one-worlders, and we oppose it for the same reason that we oppose religious ecumenism, globalism, one-world economy, one-world police force, unisex, etc. When Jesus Christ returns to earth, He will establish world unity, but until then, a divided earth seems to be His plan.

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http://www.geocities.com/bibletalk1440/articles/racial.html

Old Testament Israel

Those who preach racial segregation usually start by claiming God prohibited the Israelites from marrying people from any other nation
When the Lord your God brings you into the land which you go to possess, and has cast out many nations before you, the Hittites and the Girgashites and the Amorites and the Canaanites and the Perizzites and the Hivites and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than you, and when the Lord your God delivers them over to you, you shall conquer them and utterly destroy them. You shall make no covenant with them nor show mercy to them. <span style="font-weight: bold">Nor shall you make marriages with them</span>. You shall not give your daughter to their son, nor take their daughter for your son. For they will turn your sons away from following Me, to serve other gods; so the anger of the Lord will be aroused against you and destroy you suddenly.&quot;
Instead of &quot;proving&quot; the Israelites could not marry any foreigner, this passage proves just the opposite! <span style="font-weight: bold">God specified &quot;seven nations&quot; out of all the earth they were not allowed to intermarry with or make treaties with</span>. You will notice God was dealing with nations, not skin color.


The Curse Of Ham

Some racists like to refer to a mythical thing called &quot;The Curse Of Ham.&quot; Their argument goes like this: God cursed Ham, the father of the black race, and therefore it is a sin for a white person to marry a descendant of Ham. Most people who use this argument believe that black people are biologically, mentally and socially inferior to whites.
You can not read in the Bible of any curse God placed on Ham. However, you can read of the curse Noah put on Canaan, one of the sons of Ham (Gen. 9:24-25). Ham had three other sons: Mizraim, Cush and Put (Gen. 10:6). It was the descendants of Cush, not Canaan, who settled in Africa. Segregationists know even less about geography than they do about the Bible.
Concerning the curse placed on the descendants of Canaan, Matthew Henry said, &quot;though the Canaanites were a formidable people, yet they were of old an accursed people, and doomed to ruin. The particular curse is, A servant of servants (that is, the meanest and most despicable servant) shall he be, even to his brethren. Those who by birth were his equals shall by conquest be his lords. This certainly points at the victories obtained by Israel over the Canaanites, by which they were all either put to the sword or under tribute (Josh. ix. 23; Judg. i. 28, 30, 33, 35), which happened not till about 800 years after this&quot; (Matthew Henry's Commentary On The Whole Bible, Vol. 1, pg. 74).

Vernon Barr, a noted Baptist debater, said, &quot;<span style="font-style: italic">Intermarriage between black and white races had its origin in Socialist and Marxist doctrines. It is basically atheistic</span>&quot; (The Curing Of Ham, pg. 30). I wonder if Vernon Barr thinks Moses was a Marxist or an atheist?

Conclusion
We need to remember that God does not look at the color of a man's skin to determine his worth. Your physical ancestry is meaningless. What really matters is whether or not you are a spiritual descendant of Abraham. &quot;There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise&quot; (Gal. 3:28-29).


http://www.creationism.org/csshs/v07n1p05.htm

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p.s shpresoj qe moderatoret te mos i fshijne keto komente ne gjuhe te huaj, thanx
 

Ekisi

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Përpara se të kyqem në tem,do i kisha pershëndetur së pari ata që nuk pajtohen me mendimin tim,por edhe ata që pajtohen.Unë jetoi në Pe.. dhe kam pasur fatin që të punoi me njerz me kultura të ndryshme, me ngjyra të ndryshme,duke filluae nga Aurtalija Amerika,Afrika Europa,Azia,Nuk mund ta mohosh faktin se në mesin e tyre ka pasr të mir por edhe të kqinjë.Nuk duhet nxituar që të kemë paragjykime për njerzit. Por se a kundroin er të keqe njerzit e races së zezë,kët smund ta hudhë posht askush,edhe për kunder faktit se ka pasur të atill që higjena personale ka qenë mbi nivel.Mbas gjithë kesaj mund të i`u thëm se ndihem i priviligjuar që jam shqiptar me gjitha ato të mira ,the ato të meta që posedoim si një Komb.
 

bimba81

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Fillimisht postuar nga shqipo:
[qb] Ndoshta kane qene me rroba dhe kane pas hedhe parfum, dhe ti nuk ke pas nga t'ia dallosh eren. Fol per vete se te tjeret ndoshta te genjejne, se kan turp. [/qb]
edhe ti gjithashtu fol per veten tende.boll o shqiptare me keto racisma boll.pffffffff
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Danae

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Fillimisht postuar nga shqipo:
[qb] po tham keshtu se kosovart ne pergjithesi duan te bejne vet dallim prej nesh'). Po te justifikoheshin keshtu si mendoni ju gjerat, do dalin e gjithe bota njelloj. Kenga edukaten dhe kulturen tregon, &quot;si te atij qe e kendon dhe si te atij qe e degjon&quot;. Po nuk u shit ai CD me at kenge, do te thote se populli nuk ka at edukate dhe kulture, se po ta kishte do ta pelqente dhe do te ishin me &quot;popullore&quot;, siq i kane zezakt. <span style="font-style: italic">Mos isha gje jashte teme?</span>
ca dmth me keto rreth kosovareve,per mua bota njesoj eshte shqipo.
sa per ta dite ke do diskrimonoja une:ata qe ne vend te ç-se perdorin Q_ne dhe ne vend te LL-se perdorin DH-ne,dmth injorantet,te ish per mua albforumi duhet te kishte si lejekalim alfabetin shqip,ne menyre qe ata qe nuk e dine te rrinin jashte.

Si ka mundesi qe asnje femer nuk po del te na thote se nuk e kam problem per eren e zezakut ( 'qe i ka provuar kuptohet')? Se ata/o qe thone se nuk kane ere ja fusin kot me hamendje. [/qb]
 

Anglophile

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Fillimisht postuar nga Danae:
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Fillimisht postuar nga shqipo:
[qb] po tham keshtu se kosovart ne pergjithesi duan te bejne vet dallim prej nesh'). Po te justifikoheshin keshtu si mendoni ju gjerat, do dalin e gjithe bota njelloj. Kenga edukaten dhe kulturen tregon, &quot;si te atij qe e kendon dhe si te atij qe e degjon&quot;. Po nuk u shit ai CD me at kenge, do te thote se populli nuk ka at edukate dhe kulture, se po ta kishte do ta pelqente dhe do te ishin me &quot;popullore&quot;, siq i kane zezakt. <span style="font-style: italic">Mos isha gje jashte teme?</span>
ca dmth me keto rreth kosovareve,per mua bota njesoj eshte shqipo.
sa per ta dite ke do diskrimonoja une:ata qe ne vend te ç-se perdorin Q_ne dhe ne vend te LL-se perdorin DH-ne,dmth injorantet,te ish per mua albforumi duhet te kishte si lejekalim alfabetin shqip,ne menyre qe ata qe nuk e dine te rrinin jashte.

Si ka mundesi qe asnje femer nuk po del te na thote se nuk e kam problem per eren e zezakut ( 'qe i ka provuar kuptohet')? Se ata/o qe thone se nuk kane ere ja fusin kot me hamendje. [/qb]
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Flm per verejtjen dhe komplimentin. &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;
Ketu gabime bejne shumica kur shkruajne. Shkronjen &quot;ç&quot; e kuptova se e kisha gabim, po pritova te ndryshoj mesazhin se nuk ma mori mendja se do shikonit se si e kam shkruar. Kurse &quot;LL-ne&quot; nuk e kam kuptu, te them te drejten. Ta shikosh holle holle edhe ti nuk ke shkruan si duhet. Kur fillon fjalia perdoret &quot;capital letter&quot;. Kur drejton nje pytje perdoret &quot;?&quot;. Vetem per keto me ke thene injorant?! OK, une po te them edhe nje here flm.


Per kosovaret nuk do thoja asgje, po vetem ngase e shkrova &quot;kosovaro-shqiptar&quot;. Se eshte per ty bota njesoj nuk do te thote se eshte per te gjithe, - ne bote ka popuj me kultura te ndryshme-. Hipokritet i kam inat ne kulm. Ke ndonje verejtje tjeter?
 

Anglophile

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Fillimisht postuar nga trendy81:
[qb]
Fillimisht postuar nga shqipo:
[qb] Ndoshta kane qene me rroba dhe kane pas hedhe parfum, dhe ti nuk ke pas nga t'ia dallosh eren. Fol per vete se te tjeret ndoshta te genjejne, se kan turp. [/qb]
edhe ti gjithashtu fol per veten tende.boll o shqiptare me keto racisma boll.pffffffff
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Ke deshire te flas une per vete?! OK, po filloj. Une dhe kur udhetoj me autobuz apo tren nuk ulem ne nje karrige me zezak se ju vjen era si kafshe, sidomos tani ne vere. Kur erdha ne fillim ketu ne UK, dola jashte per jete nate. Nje femer zezake po me shikonte edhe une ju afrova edhe filluam te benin muhabet, isha i pire. Ne muhabet e siper u nxe loja edhe doja ta puthja, mu duk sikur u afrova te puthi ndonje kafshe te zeze, ika e lashe nuk u puthem. Me zezak edhe po nuk e pate problem per eren qe kan! ke frik te besh edhe sex se condom-i nuk eshte 100% i sigurt.
 

alinos

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Shqipo leji llafet e mos kerce nga nje dege ne tjetren.
Danae thjesht po te ironizonte dhe me sa duket ja doli se fillove te mbrohesh, pra per nje cast u vure dhe ti ne pozicionin e te diskriminuarve.
Nuk ishte pozicion i rehatshem apo e jam gabim?!

Ne pergjithesi per temen. Me vjen keq qe vazhdoj te lexoj komente te tilla ne forum, gjithnje nen pretendimin se e frekuenton nje pjese e shoqerise qe eshte me mendje hapur ndaj te ndryshmeve.
Nuk jam duke i bere moral asnjerit, secili do e kuptoje vete nje dite, por vetem do beja ca pyetje ne lidhje me temen:

a) Nese femra/mashkulli do ishin te bardhe po vinin ere, do t'i preferonit ndaj atyre me ngjyre?
b) Ne Shqiperi ka nje pjese te popullsise qe jane ezmere po s'jane as zezake dhe as &quot;jevgj&quot;, cfare i ben te ndryshem ata qe ne pamje te pare nuk ndryshojne nga grupi qe perbuzni? Ideja?


s'kam nerva per te tjera!!!
 

sweet eda

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ufaaaa hala me kete muhabet ju njerez???!! si nuk u lohdte njehere.Jo po racista, jo po vjen ere, fundja fare secili ka mendimin e tij, smund te thoni nje personi racist nese ai nuk e pelqen, apo jo nje te zi, dhe smund te thoni qe zezaket vijne ere, se fundja fare edhe ata njerez jane.
kshu qe give it a break , dhe dilni perjashte me marre ajer, zezaket bojne qejf, juve akoma me verri-perri me njeri tjetrin.
hajt diten e mire.
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Seriozi

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Tema mbyllet.

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qafiri

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per prozezaket dhe antizezaket;
I thote i bardhi zezakut;
-E di ti pse vetem syte,dhembet dhe shputat e doreve i ke te bardha?
-Jo,-thote i ziu.Pse?
-Sepse kur Zoti po ngjyroste me te zeze,paraardhesi juaj i mbajti syte dhe gojen mbyllur dhe duart grusht.
Atehere zezaku iu drejtua;
-E dija kete.Po ti e di qe ende pa ju thare boja iu cua te ziut dhe ia rrasi te bardhit ne b*the.
Prandaj te bardhit i ka mbetur rrethi i b*thes i zi!
 

Kordelja

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Re: Dashuri me zezake?

Do silleni mire juve e do qendroni ne teme per ofendime apo ta mbyll temen une.

Hera e fundit qe u paralajmeroj, se deri tani nuk keni ra dakort per gje, vec keni kalu ne ofendime apo tallje.

Fundja s'ka asgje te mendosh apo ndjesh ndryshe.

Permbajuni temes!

Lajmerimi i fundit!
 
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