Cmendoni per te ardhmen e Irakut (paralelizma me ate qe ndodhi vertet ne Gjermani)

Cmendoni per te ardhmen e Irakut (paralelizma me ate qe ndodhi vertet ne Gjermani)

Nje hipoteze shpaloset ketu poshte. Po ju c'mendoni?


The Coming Years In Iraqnam


By Joseph E Fasciani
5-18-4


A Brief Preface and Source Credit


Let us turn our gaze from the assassination of the Chief Puppet of Iraqnam's Governing Council to what we can most likely expect in the years ahead. It is difficult to do, as we are mesmerised by the vision of Hell on Earth that the British and US invaders have created after nearly fifteen years of ceaseless warfare against the people of Iraq and the Islamic world.

History gives us the most probable outcome the invaders will impose on this devastated nation, now poisoned for ten thousand years with Depleted Uranium, a monstrous Crime against Humanity as well as a War Crime.

But DU poisons the invaders as well: these betrayed tens of thousands are dead, dying, or have contaminated their families with genetic defects. Of course, none of this touches those who wanted and promoted this madness. They believe themselves successful, ready to attack Syria, Iran, anywhere an advantage can be gained. No price is too high for others to pay for their values.

As I wrote above, a study of History gives us the most probable outcome: in 1918 it was decided by the English and US ruling elites that Germany must not only be blamed for World War 1, it must also be punished in a way that would profit those same elites. I give only the briefest outline here: for the full story please read Chapter 21, "Germany's Hyper-Inflation Under a Private Central Bank" in Stephen Zarlenga's The Lost Science of Money, the Mythology of Money and the Story of Power, Second Edition, published 2004, The American Monetary Institute, Box 601, Valatie, NY 12184. Online, ami@taconic.net will help you get a copy of this highly readable book, if your bookstore doesn't yet have it. By the bye: Stephen here gives the origin of "bad luck" associated with Friday the Thirteenth two years before a parallel account was published in The DaVinci Code.

THE GREAT GAME: START WITH THE SAME PLAYERS

Germany's rapid industrialization and growing world power status was signalled when Deutsche Bank financed the Turkish-Baghdad Railway in 1900. German industry, already linked to Istanbul by the Orient Express, was poised to challenge Britain on land and sea. England saw this as an immediate threat to her naval power and her access to cheap Mid-East oil. (Does it ever stop?) In 1907 US diplomat Henry White was instructed to meet with Lord Balfour (yes, the same one!) and ascertain Britain's views on the balance of power in Europe. To get around secrecy pledges, White had his daughter listen in on the conversation and record this dialogue:

Lord Balfour: "We are probably fools not to find a reason for declaring war on Germany before she builds too many ships and takes away our trade."

White: "if you wish to compete with German trade, work harder."

Balfour: "That would mean lowering our standard of living. Perhaps it would be easier for us to have a war."

In this snippet, we learn how cheaply citizen soldiers' lives are valued and the high cost of 'our standard of living' via pre-emptive war. Sadly, nothing has changed in nearly a century. Personally, I believe there are some good people in governance, perhaps ten percent, who work for a better world for all. But their efforts are easily defeated by the 90% who are in it for personal enrichment and fame.

Professor Carroll Quigley, Bill Clinton's mentor, in his Tragedy and Hope and The Anglo American Establishment, sets out the bases for world powers and identifies their human sources. One of these was Alfred E Zimmern, whose 13 page tract "The Economic Weapon" was an early indication of how power would be manipulated and established by industrial nations. Written during WW1, he clearly stated what we now see unravelling in Iraqnam: "What will happen when peace is signed? without raw materials there can be no industrial employment, and demobilization without employmentfor the disbanded soldier spells social disorder" (Now where have we heard and seen this?) "The Alliesby their command of essential supplies controlthe whole process of German recuperation."

Thus, it is essential that Iraq be destroyed and its populace kept down. And the current record high prices for oil products? "(T)he whole civilized world will be facedwith the prospect of a shortage, if not a famine, over a period calculatedat no less than three years."

So, as we used to say in 'Nam: 'There it is.' You can look forward to enriching the Seven Sisters for at least three more years. But there's more, much more, to come.

PART TWO: THE WINNERS MAKE THE RULES

Next, the US dollar must be maintained as the world's trading currency, and the Euro must be kept in its place. Sodamn Insane had moved to Euro denominated oil, and this could not be tolerated by the world's largest consumer of oil and only hyper-power. The State's ownership and control of oil must also cease, along with all State industries.

No problem. The best way to perpetually enslave the citizens of Iraq (or any nation, for that matter) is to take away control of their central bank and issue of currency. Iraq will now suffer what the citizens of the US, Canada, and other benighted deficit debt-ridden countries share: private profits at public expense.

Prior to the war, Germany had a private form of central bank, but it was under tight State control: "There was a sharing of the revenue of the central bank between the private shareholders and the government. But share-holders had no power to determine policy." p. 579

Now contrast this to the spectacle of the US Senate and House enduring the smoke and mirrors show put on by Alan Greenspan, as he lurches from one inflationary lie to the next! It's an old, old script, but we keep putting up with it. Caught in a futile rat-race, most citizens will never have time to understand why they must run all day to stay in the same place. And yet there is little rebellion from the masses, as their plight worsens. If you ask why not, perhaps the best answer is King Theseus' remark when asked by an attendant how it was that as King his people became so obedient: "I made them love the chains that bind them."

First, the Allies insisted the Reichsbank be made into one that conformed to their "free market" orientation ideology. The task of bringing this about was given to a Chicago banker, one General Charles Gates Dawes, and it became known as "The Dawes Plan". (This all sounds very familiar, doesn't it? The more it changes, the more it stays the same regime.) On p. 580 Stephen Zarlenga points out in bold type that "This granting of total private control over the German currency became a key factor in the worst inflation of modern times."

Now for the finishing touch, le morceau de resistance: to bring the defeated nation to its knees forever (well, at least until you get your profits out) load it with reparations and debt, payable in US dollars! Voila, another masterpiece of private satanic--oops!--I mean central banking, the public curse of the ages and the enriching salvation of a few thousands. And let us note that their track record is absolutely perfect: every major Depression and violent social upheaval was preceded and caused by the collapse of a private central bank. Amazing, isn't it?

At last, dear reader, you understand the wisdom of the US placing renegade criminal banker Achmed Chalabi as Head Puppet of its Council of Puppets.

What's next? That's easy: privatize, privatize, privatize! Don't shade your eyes-Scrutinize! After WW2, the Allies decided to turn German currency reform over to a group of US academics, and this was done under the Morgenthau-Tannenbaum Plan. Gadzooks, what names! It's hard to believe no one else could be found to do the deed, but once again, "There it is!" Jewish bankers to "correct" Germany, but at least this wasn't anti-Semitic, was it? And let us never forget Henry Morgenthau's little book, published in 1945: 'Germany Is Our Problem'.

By now, you get the idea. Just as in Iraqnam, a new currency was introduced, the Deutsche Mark (DM), and salaries were set by the occupying military. "But," notes Zarlenga, "all money claims, savings accounts, debts, etc., were reduced to 1/10th their nominal amount. On the other hand, shares, properties, and other material assets remained undiminished! This represented an unfair redistribution of wealth to the rich."

Careful readers will remember something very like this took place shortly after the Allies "took control" of Iraq, seized all liquid assets, and secreted them. This was done ostensibly for the Iraqis "own good," until they could be used in a new and better Iraq. Billions of US dollars and other currencies vanished without any accounting, and are still missing. They then issued a new dinar, one without Sodamn Insane's likeness. It soon became apparent that wealthy Iraqis were now even better off in relation to poor Iraqis than before OilWar2! All the better to secure cheap labour when they are desperate, right?

Finally, Germany was partitioned into a false East-West dichotomy, the same as Indo-China became North and South Vietnam. We should expect Iraq will most likely be carved into three new states: divide and conquer even more easily. The Kurds may get the autonomous district promised to them for a century, the Sunnis and Shiias may be forcibly separated into new enclaves, to be more easily patrolled by a shrinking US "volunteer" military. These "new arrangements" are unlikely to last very long, however, and then there will be another eruption engineered by the "Special Team" that brought you WW1, WW2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, and all the other endless conflicts world-wide.

WHAT COMES NEXT?

Well, we already know that "Iraqnam is Our Problem", at least, that was the plan until Iraq morphed into Iraqnam and the populace stopped throwing flowers and threw grenades instead. Now, however, although the USA and the UK would like to shift the burden of costs unto the world, they still want a handful of domestic private firms to take billions from the oil, and any other infrastructure reorganizations they are able to effect. Judging from historical examples of the fate of occupying troops, however, including the British Redcoats during the American Colonies Rebellion, they will be unable to stay as legitimate government. At some point they will leave.

What then takes place is whatever the scrambled mess of that future era allows the residents to create. The region's people have excellent and long memories, due to their oral traditions exercising their mnemonic skills. Too bad the TV and video jaded populace of the UK and the USA can't equally recall history. For until they can, and until the day when their roles as oppressors and colonists are owned and grieved, and some measure of compensation made to their victims, there will always be "Another War, one more, always just one more" to rally 'round the flag. vertet vertet
 

antares

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NCO. Meqe e paske problem ate punen e helikoptereve, padashur e zbulove vete, ne ate postim ishte shkruar helikopter, po kjo sdo te thote gje, se cfare eshte ...130-gunship pak rendesi ka.
Ti mos u merzit, mundohu ti permbahesh temes dhe mos besh akrobacira ushtarake.
Une te njoh pak a shume nga gjerat qe shkuan (se si i shkruan se ky eshte zanati im) ndersa ti nuk di asgje per mua derisa nuk kupton se cfare seksi, moshe, botkuptimi kam une.
Shoh qe ke marre shume nga stili i Nanos, se shkruan gjate po thua asgje apo pak gje. Mos kujto se ke te besh me elektoratin kokegdhe sociaist qe kur nuk kuptojne dicka mendojne qe folesi duhet te jete burre i zgjuar. Nanos i ecen ne Shqiperi kjo taktike. Po une nuk emocionohem me keto gjera.
Tjeter here pac me shume fat.
Allahu Akbar
 

reservoir dog

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sipas te dhenave paraprake,te dala nga hetimet e bera rreth incidentit te se martes,rezulton se ata 40 te vdekurit nuk ishin dasmore,por terroriste islamike dhe filmimet qe tregonin civile te vdekur ishin bere jo ne vendngjarje,por ne nje lokalitet tjeter.kaq sa per sqarim!
 

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Nqs se mendon se je person me i rritur se une (gje qe nuk eshte ndonje cudi)atehere eshte aq me keq per ty qe flet ne kete menyre.Ti kujton se me njeh..por ama s me njeh aspak dhe aq me pak je ne gjendje te me gjykosh.Sic te thashe edhe me lart une shpreha mendimin tim dhe nqs se ty nuk te pelqen ky eshte problemi jot e jo i imi.
1)Nqs se nuk e ke kuptuar akoma nuk me shqeteson fare fakti nese ishte helikopter apo avion.
2)Nqs se nuk je dakort me ate qe them une ke te gjithe te drejtat mos pergjigjesh ose te kundershtosh por jo te ofendosh
3)Nuk mendoj se dola jashte teme kur bera korrigjimin por edhe nese dola mesa di une ti nuk je moderator qe te besh te tilla verejtje.
4)Sa per dijeni nuk dua tia di as per Nanon dhe as ndonje politikan tjeter dakort?
Dhe per ta mbyllur po te them se eshte shume kollaj ti ofendosh te tjeret duke perfituar nga anonimiteti i internetit apo jo?
Gjithsesi une nuk bie ne nivelin tend...kushdo qofsh ti....
 

assassino26

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Dmth e kisha me antares qe kishte shkruajtur: apo te varur me koken poshte si 4 derrat amerikane ne Falluja
 

antares

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NCO! Jam dakord me ate qe thua qe ketu ska vend per komente personale. Nese ne ndonje rast e kam kaluar masen, nuk e kam problem te te kerkoj ndjese.
Sigurisht cdo njeri ka opinionet e veta dhe kjo si jep te drejten askujt te godase mbartesin e opinionit. Pikerisht fakti qe jemi "anonime" duhet te na beje te ruajme nje standart te larte komunikimi e debati.

Antares.
 

NCO

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Flm antares kaq desha prej teje...

NCO :wave:
 

selena

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veshtire te jete me keq se sa eshte tani
 

assassino26

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HAJDUTI I HURMAVE!
Me gjithe respektin qe kam,kur ta besh punen beje tamam,ose mos e bej fare.Kur flitet per te rene eshte ofendim ti quash ata derra,kushdo qofshin ata e per cfaredo ideali pacin rene.Pashe qe postimin tim e kishe fshire edhe mire e kishe bere,por fshije edhe postimin e Atij derrit antares qe i quan te renet ne lufte derra.
Me respekt 1 antar i forumit
 

personazh

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peshkatar, mendoj qe gjykimi ndaj temes eshte personal sidoqofte, por pa kaluar ne te shara personale ndaj antareve qe marrin pjese. kjo eshte arsyeja e editimit. nuk mu duk sikur po te shante ty derr. nqs ka mendim qe derr eshte ai qe vritet ne irak apo gjetke, une s'ja ndaloj dot. perndryshe do fshihej 90% e postimeve ne kete seksjon.
 

antares

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Peshkatari:

Pashe qe postimin tim e kishe fshire edhe mire e kishe bere,por fshije edhe postimin e Atij derrit antares qe i quan te renet ne lufte derra.
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Eh more peshkatar.... po mbaje veten more burre se sben njeriu keshtu. Ti i drejtohesh "Hajdutit te hurmave" pak a shume keshtu: "Obobo babi ai cuni aty me rrahu, shko e bjeri ti qe je me i madh".
Po une ore peshkatar, nuk kam ndermend ti ankohem moderatorit meqe ti perdore ato fjalet aty siper. Ty te dhimbsen 4 bandite qe gjeten fundin e merituar me shume se une qe jam shqiptar dhe seshte cudi qe edhe te dalim kusherinj te 6 apo te 7.
Leri ankesat dhe perdor forcen e argumentave.
 

antares

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Ja dhe palacolleku i fundit anglo-amerikan.....

US Offers Iraq 'Sovereignty Lite'

by Thalif Deen

The United States and Britain are asking the U.N. Security Council to transfer political and administrative power to Iraq while holding back sovereign power that legitimately belongs to the Iraqi people, say critics of the move proposed Monday.

A five-page draft resolution, co-sponsored by the allies, calls for the formation of a "sovereign interim government" in Iraq and the creation of a U.S.-led multinational force (MNF) to provide security for U.N. personnel administering proposed elections in the occupied country.

But the resolution skirts the crucial issue of how much real sovereignty will be passed to the Iraqi people, whose country will continue to be militarily occupied by U.S., British and other coalition forces until 2005, or longer.

"There is no such thing as 'sovereignty lite,’" says Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch (HRW).

"Being sovereign is like being pregnant: you either are or you aren't," Roth added in a statement issued Monday. "If the new Iraqi government (as envisaged by the U.S.-U.K. resolution) doesn't have ultimate authority and responsibility for the security of the Iraqi people, then it is not truly sovereign," he added.

Roth said the draft resolution is flawed for two reasons: not only will Washington continue to have final say on matters of Iraqi security, but the interim government will not be able to enact new legislation or overturn laws imposed during the U.S.-led occupation, which began after coalition forces attacked the regime of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein in March 2003.

"The whole thing is a sham," says Joan Russow of the Canada-based Global Compliance Research Project. "It would appear that the Security Council will cave in to U.S. and U.K. pressure to essentially absolve the two countries for their preemptive/preventive aggression against Iraq: an undeniable violation of the rule of international law."

"If the current resolution is adopted," she told IPS, "a dangerous precedent will be set – that the Security Council will overlook distortion of facts to justify intervention."

Jim Paul of the Global Policy Forum says the draft resolution only offers an excuse to provide "a certain legitimacy to the odious occupation of Iraq."

"The Security Council should really be calling into account the occupation of Iraq, not condoning it," Paul said in an interview. While the international community has overwhelmingly condemned the occupation of Iraq as illegal, "the United Nations is institutionally somehow agreeing to the legality of this occupation," he said.

There are two significant shortcomings in the draft resolution, argued Paul, whose group monitors U.N. policy-making. First, it "welcomes" the establishment of a "partnership" between the proposed multinational force and the sovereign interim government of Iraq.

The concept of "partnership," he said, clearly indicates a division of sovereignty between the multinational force and the Iraqi people. This is unacceptable – particularly if real sovereignty is to be restored to the people.

Secondly, added Paul, the resolution seeks the support of the international community to "condemn all acts of terrorism in Iraq."

"This identifies Iraqi resistance to military occupation as terrorism," he said. "Clearly, there are various acts of resistance by Iraqis which may seem acceptable by some. But the resolution tries to frame the entire resistance movement as a terrorist movement," he added. "This is intolerable."

Equally unacceptable, according to Paul, is the fact that the resolution does not provide a timeframe for the multinational force to end its mission in Iraq. "So if the Security Council in its wisdom proposes an end to the mission, the United States and Britain will have veto powers over any such proposal."

Besides the United States and Britain, the three other veto-wielding permanent members of the Security Council are China, Russia and France. According to observers, they are unlikely to use their vetoes against the draft resolution primarily to avoid a fight with the United States.

Russow argued that adopting the resolution would also condone the violation of international law, including the Geneva Conventions governing the treatment of prisoners and civilians during war.

Both the United States and Britain are under a storm of controversy for abusing prisoners under their care in Iraq (and also Afghanistan in Washington's case). Those shocking incidents, many captured on film and seen around the world in recent weeks, would violate the Conventions.

Russow argued that the decision on the U.S.-U.K. proposal should not be left to the Security Council.

The Millennium Declaration adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 2000 contains a commitment to strengthen the role of the Assembly. "The time is now: only the General Assembly can prevent the United Nations from being discredited for establishing a dangerous international precedent," Russow said.

It is imperative that the Assembly hold a special session as soon as possible on the situation in Iraq and the future of the country, she added.

According to Paul, there are few prospects for countries to contribute to the multinational force proposed in the draft resolution.

"This is a time when countries are pulling out their troops and heading for the exit," he said. Spain, which withdrew its troops last week, will not go back under any circumstances, he added.

Germany, France, Canada and Russia have already announced they will not provide any troops – "no matter what kind of resolution is adopted by the Security Council," according to Paul.

The draft resolution also says that upon the dissolution of the U.S.-administered Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) Jun. 30, the new interim government will have control over oil resources.

Since last year's invasion, the country has been run by the CPA headed by U.S. Ambassador Paul Bremer.

The U.N. envoy to Iraq, Lakdhar Brahimi, is currently in Iraq negotiating with leaders of several ethnic and religious groups to form an interim government with a prime minister, a president and two vice presidents.

The United Nations has been entrusted in the resolution with the task of conducting nation-wide elections by December this year, "if possible, and in no case later than Jan. 31, 2005."

Despite the planned handover of power to Iraqis, the United States has said that its troops, numbering over 130,000, will remain in Iraq through 2005.

(Inter Press Service)
 

assassino26

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Ti antares,e bere telef copy pasten.
Persa i perket ca me kishe thene me lart,djalosh une se kam ne mend te zihem me ty,per ca palo irakene bythzgjebosur perdite,kshuqe vetem lajmerova moderatorin qe dicka qe ti kishe shkruar mua sme pelqente.Moderatori me beri te ditur qe per irakenet une mund te them sa here te dua derra e doca e pederaste e cte me teket e une tashi se vras me mendjen,kaq me mjafton.
Jam i sigurte qe me shume prej jush qe bej debat e sikur theremi me thika,do e pinja 1 birre,pa me te voglin debat.Ne fund te fundit une jam Shqiptar,ti gjithashtu,flasim shqip e meremi vesh per bukuri.Mesa duket kur shkruajme jemi pak me te zhdervjellet e shahemi e shajme,por jam i sigurte qe as ti e aq me pak une,s'do shaheshim e dabatonim keshtu per ca palo morracake jevgjite andej nga arabaia.
Shendet e pare te gjithe shqiptareve,poshte tradhtareve edhe poshte edhe terroristeve arabe
 

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Mire qe na e lejoj Hajduti i Hurmave,keta Irakenet jane ca derra te ndyre,jane ca pederasta,jane ca brekegrisur qe nuk e kane hallall qe ushtaret shqiptare te shkojne ne ndihme te tyre /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif ,boll shava tani,degjoni ,nuk eshte faji i popullit te thjeshte iraken por une lexova edhe dicka tjeter,qe Arabet e Saudise nuk i paskan fort per zemer shiitet irakene,edhe kjo u desht atyre te shkreteve,kam besim te forte ne Qeverine Amerikane per zgjidhjen e situates ne Irak. :thumbsup:
 

antares

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Tani pasi i dha nje boje vaji pushtimit te Irakut ne "OKB", amerika po kerkon qe jo vetem ushtria pushtuese te mos pergjigjet per asnje lloj krimi ne Irak, po edhe te ashtuquajturit subkontraktore. Shikoni se cfare sovraniteti i eshte dhene Irakut, nuk do te kete te drejte te nxjerre ne gjyq as civile qe mund te kene kryer krime ne Irak!
Lajmet thone qe edhe qeveria kukull e montuar nga CIA nuk e gelltit dot nje poshterim te tille!
 

OROSHI

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Vetem Amerika mundet te ndertoje demokracine ne Irak dhe Iraku te shkoje drejt prosperitetit-fjalet e klerikut Al Sadr thene nje te besuari te tij!!!E dha Al-Jazira.
 

Kondrapedali

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Vetëm Sh.B.A nuk dohet ta rindërtojë Irakun pasi ka për të ngel më keq se Palestina për sa kohë do ketë naftë e për sa kohë Irani do jetë i pamvarur!
Amerikanët janë të mirë veç për Amerikën ashtu siç janë të gjithë kombet për vendet e tyre, përfshi edhe shqiptarët! :thumbsup:
 
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