Amerika Nr. 1.! Vertet?

Amerika Nr. 1.! Vertet?

Nje statistike e shkurter qe tregon se si reshtohet USA ne raport me shtete te tjera apo me Europen!


No. 1?
By: MICHAEL VENTURA



No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than the notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media are, in essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No. 1." Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political suicide. In fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an "empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing base. An empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order to function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well ... this is the country you really live in:

• The United States is 49th in the world in literacy (The New York Times, Dec. 12, 2004).

• The United States ranked 28th out of 40 countries in mathematical literacy (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

• One-third of our science teachers and one-half of our math teachers did not major in those subjects. (Quoted on The West Wing, but you can trust it – their researchers are legendary.)

• Twenty percent of Americans think the sun orbits the Earth. Seventeen percent believe the Earth revolves around the sun once a day (The Week, Jan. 7, 2005).

• "The International Adult Literacy Survey ... found that Americans with less than nine years of education 'score worse than virtually all of the other countries'" (Jeremy Rifkin's superbly documented book The European Dream

: How Europe's Vision of the Future Is Quietly Eclipsing the American Dream, p.78).
• Our workers are so ignorant, and lack so many basic skills, that American businesses spend $30 billion a year on remedial training (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004). No wonder they relocate elsewhere!

• "The European Union leads the U.S. in ... the number of science and engineering graduates; public research and development (R&D) expenditures; and new capital raised" (The European Dream, p.70).

• "Europe surpassed the United States in the mid-1990s as the largest producer of scientific literature" (The European Dream, p.70).

• Nevertheless, Congress cut funds to the National Science Foundation. The agency will issue 1,000 fewer research grants this year (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004).

• Foreign applications to U.S. grad schools declined 28% last year. Foreign student enrollment on all levels fell for the first time in three decades, but increased greatly in Europe and China. Last year Chinese grad-school graduates in the U.S. dropped 56%, Indians 51%, South Koreans 28% (NYT, Dec. 21, 2004). We're not the place to be anymore.

• The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. was ... 37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.

• "The U.S. and South Africa are the only two developed countries in the world that do not provide health care for all their citizens" (The European Dream, p.80). Excuse me, but since when is South Africa a "developed" country? Anyway, that's the company we're keeping.

• Lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary American deaths a year. (That's six times the number of people killed on 9/11.) (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005.)

• "U.S. childhood poverty now ranks 22nd, or second to last, among the developed nations. Only Mexico scores lower" (The European Dream, p.81). Been to Mexico lately? Does it look "developed" to you? Yet it's the only "developed" country to score lower in childhood poverty.

• Twelve million American families – more than 10% of all U.S. households – "continue to struggle, and not always successfully, to feed themselves." Families that "had members who actually went hungry at some point last year" numbered 3.9 million (NYT, Nov. 22, 2004).

• The United States is 41st in the world in infant mortality. Cuba scores higher (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

• Women are 70% more likely to die in childbirth in America than in Europe (NYT, Jan. 12, 2005).

• The leading cause of death of pregnant women in this country is murder (CNN, Dec. 14, 2004).

• "Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its work-force in the 1980s. ... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1%" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.

• "Sixty-one of the 140 biggest companies on the Global Fortune 500 rankings are European, while only 50 are U.S. companies" (The European Dream, p.66). "In a recent survey of the world's 50 best companies, conducted by Global Finance, all but one was European" (The European Dream, p.69).

• "Fourteen of the 20 largest commercial banks in the world today are European. ... In the chemical industry, the European company BASF is the world's leader, and three of the top six players are European. In engineering and construction, three of the top five companies are European. ... The two others are Japanese. Not a single American engineering and construction company is included among the world's top nine competitors. In food and consumer products, Nestlé and Unilever, two European giants, rank first and second, respectively, in the world. In the food and drugstore retail trade, two European companies ... are first and second, and European companies make up five of the top 10. Only four U.S. companies are on the list" (The European Dream, p.68).

• The United States has lost 1.3 million jobs to China in the last decade (CNN, Jan. 12, 2005).

• U.S. employers eliminated 1 million jobs in 2004 (The Week, Jan. 14, 2005).

• Three million six hundred thousand Americans ran out of unemployment insurance last year; 1.8 million – one in five – unemployed workers are jobless for more than six months (NYT, Jan. 9, 2005).

• Japan, China, Taiwan, and South Korea hold 40% of our government debt. (That's why we talk nice to them.) "By helping keep mortgage rates from rising, China has come to play an enormous and little-noticed role in sustaining the American housing boom" (NYT, Dec. 4, 2004). Read that twice. We owe our housing boom to China, because they want us to keep buying all that stuff they manufacture.

• Sometime in the next 10 years Brazil will probably pass the U.S. as the world's largest agricultural producer. Brazil is now the world's largest exporter of chickens, orange juice, sugar, coffee, and tobacco. Last year, Brazil passed the U.S. as the world's largest beef producer. (Hear that, you poor deluded cowboys?) As a result, while we bear record trade deficits, Brazil boasts a $30 billion trade surplus (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

• As of last June, the U.S. imported more food than it exported (NYT, Dec. 12, 2004).

• Bush: 62,027,582 votes. Kerry: 59,026,003 votes. Number of eligible voters who didn't show up: 79,279,000 (NYT, Dec. 26, 2004). That's more than a third. Way more. If more than a third of Iraqis don't show for their election, no country in the world will think that election legitimate.

• One-third of all U.S. children are born out of wedlock. One-half of all U.S. children will live in a one-parent house (CNN, Dec. 10, 2004).

• "Americans are now spending more money on gambling than on movies, videos, DVDs, music, and books combined" (The European Dream, p.28).

• "Nearly one out of four Americans believe that using violence to get what they want is acceptable" (The European Dream, p.32).

• Forty-three percent of Americans think torture is sometimes justified, according to a PEW Poll (Associated Press, Aug. 19, 2004).

• "Nearly 900,000 children were abused or neglected in 2002, the last year for which such data are available" (USA Today, Dec. 21, 2004).

• "The International Association of Chiefs of Police said that cuts by the Bush administration in federal aid to local police agencies have left the nation more vulnerable than ever" (USA Today, Nov. 17, 2004).

No. 1? In most important categories we're not even in the Top 10 anymore. Not even close.

The USA is "No. 1" in nothing but weaponry, consumer spending, debt, and delusion.
 

MLK

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mystic, te thuash qe je numer 1 ne bote eshte diçka relative dhe pa senc. Numer 1 ne çfare?!
Ne volum GDP po
Ne buxhet ushtarak po
Ne forca te armatosura jo ( Kina, India)
pra ka fusha ku SBA eshte numer 1 dhe ka te tjera qe nuk eshte, biles nuk futet fare ne vendet e fillimit.
Mendoj qe sejcili pergjigjet ne funksion te hierarkise se prioriteteve te tija ne jete.
Dikush qe preferon me mire te fitoje me pak para ne jete e ne te njeten kohe te kete me teper pushime, me pak stres, me pak lodhje, te jete me i siguruar ne rast problemesh shendetesore...sigurisht qe nuk do vere SHBA ne vendin e pare dhe kjo eshte e vertete. Pra çdo pjestar i forumit ka te drejte ne kendveshtrimin e vet dhe ata qe thone se SHBA eshte numer 1 si dhe ata qe thone te kunderten. Kjo gje siç e thashe me siper varet se çfare presim nga vendi ku jetojme e çfare aspiratash kemi per jeten.
 

neta

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MLK ke te drejte, prandaj i bera pyetjen hapesit te temes. Sepse nga njera ane thone eshte krahasim (disa sjellin statistika ekonomike), nga ana tjeter thone po krahasohet me veten dhe nga tjetra ja vejne titullin Nr.1?
Mos e kan fjalen qe ne garen midis Amerikes reale dhe asaj qe pretendon te jete cila eshte me e mira (dhe si rrjedhoje nr1) ?
:tipsy:
Tema s'ka asnje lloj percaktimi per tu krahasuar, s'ka asnje lloj fakti (pervec pseudo artikujve te internetit) dhe asnje lloj fryti.
Qellimi i temes eshte shfryerja e dufit qe ka perbrenda Anetares & Co kundra Amerikes. Ndersa diskutimi si ai qe po thua ti, ose une ose antare te tjere nuk pranohet ti perkase temes "krahasuese", sepse nuk permban afshin anti-amerikan.
Nejse, meqe u sqaruam, diskutim te mbare dhe urrejta ju dalte per hajer /pf/images/graemlins/smile.gif .
 

antares

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Armiq si Antaresi&Co. qe nxijne realitetin do ti dergojme ne Spac.......Guantanamo qe te shohin realitetin e vertete.....
Gjume re embel Mystic, e suksese ne "endrren" tende te embel amerikane.
Per dike mund te jete e embel po per shumicen e botes (4-5 miljard) nje makth!
 

gurax

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Nje artikull i fundit ne CNN, tregon per nxenesit e shkollave te mesme ne Amerike, te cileve iu be nje pyetje lidhur me censuren, fjalen e mbrojtur si dhe aspekte te tjera te Amendamentit te Pare ne Kushtetute. Rezultatet jane tmerresisht te frikshme: "Vetem gjysma e studenteve u shprehen qe gazetat duhen lejuar te botojne lirshem dhe pa kontrollin dhe aprovimin e qeverise per permbajtjen e artikujve." I cudtshem eshte dhe fakti qe: "Tre ne cdo kater studente thane qe djegia e flamurit eshte e jashteligjshme. Nuk eshte! Gjysma e studenteve u shprehen qe qeveria mund te kufizoje cdo lloj materiali ne internet qe sipas saj klasifikohet e demshme. Nuk mundet!"

Duhet te kini parasysh qe nuk po flitet direkt per Kushtetuten, por per menyren se si shiht dhe interpretohet "liria" ne publik dhe per me teper midis atyre qe ne pak vjet do te jene... praktikisht Amerika!

Nuk po perpiqet askush te ule vlerat e Amerikes ne fushat ku vertet i ka, dhe qe ne fakt s'jane te pakta. Eshte fjala per te vene ne pah se ku te con vetebindja qe ke te drejten te imponosh dokrra mbi te tjeret duke dhene shembull personal.

Dhe mua kjo situate me kujton kohen e xhaxhit me kapele republike, kur te tere thoshin sa mire qe jetojme e sa shume e duam ne Partine qe na mbron, nderkohe qe te tere e dime se cfare mendimesh kishin shqiptaret e shkrete thelle brenda vetes.

Artikulli i plote eshte ketu
 

OROSHI

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Amerika eshte nr=1!!!
mbas saj vje USA
e pastaj SHBA. /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 

MLK

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Pas Shba i katerti vjen Mc Donald me ketchup :goofy:
 

antares

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More Texans turn to food stamps
Officials report 75 percent rise since 2000

By MELANIE MARKLEY
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle


• Who: Citizens and legal immigrants who have lived in the United States for five years
• Income level: A family of four earning no more than $2,043 a month in gross income or $1,571 a month in net income
• Where to apply: Any Health and Human Services Commission office

The past couple of months had been lean for Jorge Herrera, who got laid off from his construction job in November. He'd been looking for work, he said, but hadn't found anything. And he had a family to feed.

Raymond Carrizal listened intently from his corner table in the waiting room of the downtown San Jose Clinic. He handed the man a food-stamp application and showed him how to fill it out. A family of four can get as much as $499 a month to supplement their grocery budget.

"If anybody needs it, it's him," said Carrizal, an outreach worker for the nonprofit Families Under Urban & Social Attack who has spent the past three years getting hungry families signed up for the Lone Star Card, the state's electronic food-stamp program.

Such outreach efforts, in addition to a sluggish economy, a growing population and relaxed eligibility guidelines, have fueled a 75 percent increase in the number of Texans on federally funded food stamps since 2000.

Yet, despite the jump, fewer people are actually getting food stamps than a decade ago. Statewide, those receiving food stamps peaked at nearly 2.8 million in 1994, dropped to nearly 1.4 million in 2000 and has been on the rise again, reaching about 2.4 million last November.

Policies have eased

Celia Hagert, policy analyst for the Austin-based Center for Public Policy Priorities, said the decline in the late 1990s was caused by several factors, including a better economy, confusion over welfare reform and changes in eligibility that, among other things, cut off most legal immigrants.

"There were a lot of barriers put up to getting enrolled, and that combined with the confusion and the better economy and the restrictions ... all led to a lot of eligible families not getting the benefits," Hagert said.

But since 2000, she said, policies have been eased so that more people could receive food stamps. One change, for example, allowed legal immigrants to qualify for food stamps as long as they have been in the country for at least five years. And a child born in the United States can receive food stamps even though the parents aren't citizens.

At the same time, a sluggish economy and a major outreach effort in numerous communities, including Houston, have contributed to the rising numbers, Hagert said.

Barbara Loggins, program services coordinator for Families Under Urban & Social Attack, said her agency has been busy since it received a state and matching federal grant three years ago to help people sign up for food stamps.

"We are getting more and more phone calls here at our office," she said. "People are wanting to know where they can apply for food stamps, and it's not just people who have lost their jobs. It's people who are working and are falling below the poverty level."

Inconvenient process

Still, officials estimate that fewer than half the people who qualify for food stamps in Texas are getting them.

Brenda Kirk, executive director of the Houston Food Bank, said many people are unclear about the eligibility rules and many others shun food stamps because of pride or the inconvenience of going through the application process.

"If you are working in a low-wage position on a part-time schedule, you can't afford to take off to get services," said Kirk. "When it comes to why people don't access food stamps, there are as many reasons as there are people."

Kirk, who has been in Houston for eight years, said Houston food pantries are seeing more hungry people.

In the past two years, she said, the food bank, which supplies about 400 area pantries, has seen demand go up 30 percent. Despite reports of an improving economy, Kirk said many of the jobs being restored are at lower pay, causing families to struggle for the basics.

Stamps helpful

Yolanda Gutierrez, at the Catholic Charities food pantry, has also seen a rising demand for food. In 2000, she said, 24,534 people visited the food pantry. In 2004, the number had risen to 49,687.

Many of the people who visit her pantry don't qualify for food stamps because they are recent immigrants, she said. And some who do qualify don't want to apply because of the red tape.

Carrizal, who signs up people at health clinics, homeless shelters and other locations, said about 75 percent of the people he sees qualify for food stamps and need the help.

Donna Keating, for one, stopped by his table at the San Jose Clinic to get an application for a friend whose Parkinson's disease was recently diagnosed.

"The food stamps," she said, "would be very helpful."

Carrizal will not be helping people fill out their food stamp applications after the end of the month because his agency's grant expires. But he hopes someone else will continue the outreach. More people, he said, need to know about it.

"When they have food stamps, it takes up the slack," he said. "People who don't have food stamps get their lights cut off, their telephone cut off. If they can just get food stamps, it's a relief."
 

mengjesi

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Fillimisht postuar nga Isabelle:
[qb] E bukura (sqarim : jo Bukurija /pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif ) eshte qe ju qe diskutoni me më shume zjarr per te diskretituar cilesine e jeteses ne kontinentin Amerikan nuk jetoni ketu : duket se formoni opinione me te 'nigjume'.
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Sikur te kishte nje ikone qe thoshte i ke rene mu ne koke do t'a vija. U prit: :smash: ...qenka njecike agresive kjo.

Shume teme e mjere. Dikush po thoshte ne nje darke qe Amerika (fuqia, arroganca, menyra e jeteses) mund te shihet si nje teze Hegeliane, me fondamentalizmin (islamik etj) si antiteze, nje zot e di per sintezen. Po gjithsesi ky diskutim, me sakte ideja per te hapur nje teme te tille, me duket si nje version i deformuar i antitezes.
 

mengjesi

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Oh Antares, ti arrin deri aty sa merresh me Ameriken edhe tek firma. Nuk e shikon cfare fiksimi te eshte bere?
 

antares

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Eshte metode shume e njohur dhe po aq e vjeter ajo e sulmeve "ad hominem", pra meqe nuk ke argumenta per te kundershtuar dike ne nje debat te hapur fillon e merresh me debatuesin: ti e ke koken te shtrember, ti ke sy te shtrember, ti je i nipi i filanit etj. etj.
Ketu nuk po flitet per mentalitetin, ideologjine apo filozofine e antaresit por per dicka tjeter.
Mos u beni objekt humori me argumentin "Ti nuk jeton ne Amerike dhe mbylle gojen" se dikush mund tu thote qe ne Hene naten ben vape dhe meqe nuk keni qene aty do detyroheni te mbyllni gojen perkunder te vertetes shkencore!
Pse nxeheni kur dikush u mohon 6 miljonshin perderisa nuk keni qene ne Aushvic?
 

romeo

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ju lutem, evitoni shnderrimin e diskutimit ne debat mbi personat!!
 

mengjesi

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Eshte metode shume e njohur dhe po aq e vjeter ajo e sulmeve "ad hominem", pra meqe nuk ke argumenta per te kundershtuar dike ne nje debat te hapur fillon e merresh me debatuesin: ti e ke koken te shtrember, ti ke sy te shtrember, ti je i nipi i filanit etj. etj.

Une nuk u mora me ty, por me firmen tende (lexo: mendimet e tua) qe tregonte se ca si shume e ke per zemer Ameriken. Ka rendesi per temen qe nje nga diskutuesit me te zellshem e ka aq te rendesishme 'demokracine' ne Amerike.

Mos u beni objekt humori me argumentin "Ti nuk jeton ne Amerike dhe mbylle gojen" se dikush mund tu thote qe ne Hene naten ben vape dhe meqe nuk keni qene aty do detyroheni te mbyllni gojen perkunder te vertetes shkencore!

Nuk tha njeri mbylle gojen. Isabella vuri re qe te interesuarit kane njohje vetem te jashtme te Amerikes dhe nuk e kane nga njerezit qe jetojne, sic mund te jene historite e jetuara te Auschwitz-it, por nga argumenta e argumenta te tera terkuze nga 'analiste' te jashten etj. Se ty nuk te beri pershtypje artikulli per food stamps o Anetares e prandaj mendove per demokracine ne Amerike, ty te eshte mbushur mendja shume kohe me perpara, e pastaj ke nisur te kerkosh arsyet. Nese nuk te duket vetja as edhe nje cike viktime e nje ideologjie, apo me sakte e nje propagande te caktuar, atehere nuk di c'te te them.

Pse nxeheni kur dikush u mohon 6 miljonshin perderisa nuk keni qene ne Aushvic?

Ua po si e gjete qe jam cifute? E shikon si i merr gjerat ti? Me 'Ne' dhe me 'Ju', ku Ju-ja here pas here ngaterrohet me cifutet, kristianet, etj, etj. Pak me i qarte here tjeter.

Une jetoj ne Amerike per momentin dhe kam problemet e mia me kete vend. Po kjo teme nuk te afron te diskutosh problemet sepse nuk eshte nisur e as vazhduar ne venen e identifikimit te problemeve. Kjo duket qe nga titulli. Keshtu qe diskutimet perfundojne e behen te terthorta, si ky i joni.
 

Xeni85

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Pse kur nxirren fakte,dhe te dhena per nje Amerike e cila nuk eshte sic na eshte paraqitur te gjitheve qe ne femijeri,jemi ne ata qe e kemi fajin.
Me sa kam pare deri tani ata qe jane mbeshtetes te ideve te hapesit te temes kane dhene nje seri shembujsh mbi nivelet e amerikes dhe ata te cilet kane qene pro Amerikes skane bere gje tjeter vec kane hyre dhe kane filluar te akuzojne "ziline" tone per kete shtet(kur flas per ameriken e kam fjalen per USA gjithnje).

Ju lutem argumentoni "pse"-ne e vendodhjes se Amerikes ne vend te pare pasi ne argumentuam dhe dhame te dhena se pse s'eshte.
 

mengjesi

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Sepse mua, ndryshe nga ti, nuk me intereson ne c'vend eshte Amerika, ne fakt nuk me interesojne fare renditje te ketij lloji, pra per kete as qe dua te flas. Dhe une kam te drejten time te komentoj mbi arsyet e ekzistences se temes, qe jane nje pjese e rendesishme e temes.
 

antares

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Ti "kujton" se ke te drejte per arsyet e egzistences se temes! E kush ta dha ty kete te drejte qe na vjen ketu gjithe arrogance e na thua mendoni keshtu apo ashtu, hapni kete apo ate teme?
Ti ke te drejte te hapesh nje temen tende (ketu flitet per politike te jashtme e jo per psikanalizim amatoresk njerzish) dhe aty te japesh mendimet e tua (me njecike me shume modesti) per x apo y fenomen!
Nese vjen ketu thjesht per tu grricur atehere do te te lutesha te kalonim ne ndonje forum tjeter ku nuk ka censure dhe benim akrobacira retorike....
 

qartesia

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'Amerika Nr. 1.! Vertet? '


Ne lojrat olimpike te Athines po doli e para.

Tabela e medaljeve Athine 2004

Cl. Pays Total

1. États-Unis 35 39 29 103
2. Chine 32 17 14 63
3. Russie 27 27 38 92
4. Australie 17 16 16 49
5. Japon 16 9 12 37
6. Allemagne 14 16 18 48
7. France 11 9 13 33
8. Italie 10 11 11 32
9. Corée 9 12 9 30
10. Grande-Bretagne 9 9 12 30
11. Cuba 9 7 11 27
12. Ukraine 9 5 9 23
13. Hongrie 8 6 3 17
14. Roumanie 8 5 6 19
15. Grèce 6 6 4 16
16. Norvège 5 0 1 6
17. Pays-Bas 4 9 9 22
18. Brésil 4 3 3 10
19. Suède 4 1 2 7
20. Espagne 3 11 5 19
21. Canada 3 6 3 12
22. Turquie 3 3 4 10
23. Pologne 3 2 5 10
24. Nouvelle-Zélande 3 2 0 5
25. Thaïlande 3 1 4 8
26. Biélorussie 2 6 7 15
27. Autriche 2 4 1 7
28. Éthiopie 2 3 2 7
29. Slovaquie 2 2 2 6
30. Iran 2 2 2 6
31. Taïwan 2 2 1 5
32. Géorgie 2 2 0 4
33. Bulgarie 2 1 9 12
34. Jamaïque 2 1 2 5
35. Ouzbékistan 2 1 2 5
36. Maroc 2 1 0 3
37. Danemark 2 0 6 8
38. Argentine 2 0 4 6
39. Chili 2 0 1 3
40. Kazakhstan 1 4 3 8
41. Kenya 1 4 2 7
42. République Tchèque 1 3 4 8
43. Afrique du Sud 1 3 2 6
44. Croatie 1 2 2 5
45. Lituanie 1 2 0 3
46. Suisse 1 1 3 5
47. Égypte 1 1 3 5
48. Indonésie 1 1 2 4
49. Zimbabwe 1 1 1 3
50. Azerbaïdjan 1 0 4 5
51. Belgique 1 0 2 3
52. Israël 1 0 1 2
53. Bahamas 1 0 1 2
54. Émirats arabes unis 1 0 0 1
55. Irlande 1 0 0 1
56. République dominicaine 1 0 0 1
57. Cameroun 1 0 0 1
58. Corée du Nord 0 4 1 5
59. Lettonie 0 4 0 4
60. Mexique 0 3 1 4
61. Portugal 0 2 1 3
62. Serbie et Monténégro 0 2 0 2
63. Finlande 0 2 0 2
64. Slovénie 0 1 3 4
65. Estonie 0 1 2 3
66. Inde 0 1 0 1
67. Hong Kong, Chine 0 1 0 1
68. Paraguay 0 1 0 1
69. Vénézuela 0 0 2 2
70. Nigéria 0 0 2 2
71. Mongolie 0 0 1 1
72. Trinidad & Tobago 0 0 1 1
73. Érythrée 0 0 1 1
74. Syrie 0 0 1 1
75. Colombie 0 0 1 1
 

MLK

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Po normal qe doli e para pasi ka 50 shtete. Beni mbledhjen e medaljeve te vendeve te komunitetit Evropian Si Franca, Anglia, Gjermania, Greqia, Italia e llogaritni ne çfare vendi do te ishte SHBA nese do te garonin Evropianet nen emrin e KE. :rockband:
 

OROSHI

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Re: Amerika Nr. 1.! Vertet?

Mos e banalizoni muhabetin, sa shpejt bini pre e "te zgjuarve" more miq!
 
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