LUIGI PIRANDELLO

romeo

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LUIGI PIRANDELLO

Pirandello besoj se eshte nje nga perfaqesuesit me te medhenj te letersise italiane moderne. Ne repertorin e tij ka nje sere veprash qe demostrojne madheshtine e tij. Ka qene nja nga italianet me te famshem dhe me te degjuar ne bote. Romani i tij me i lexuar dhe me i shitur ngelet “IL FU MATTIA PASCAL”. Ne kete roman ashtu si ne shume vepra te tjera ai trajton me nje mjeshteri te rralle gjendjen e brendeshme te njeriut, ankthet, friken, gezimet, hidherimet etj. Edhe pse nje roman qe mund te duket i merzitshem, mendoj se eshte nje kryeveper.
Per faktin e thjeshte qe autori hyn aq shume ne pershkrimin psikologjik te personazhit saqe ky i fundit te duket sikur te jete real dhe sikur arrin te kuptosh te tere mekanizmat qe levizin mendjen e tij.
Edhe ne novelat e tij ai perdor te njejten mjeshteri per te gerrmuar ne thellesite e trurit te njeiut. Mjafton te lexosh “LA CARRIOLA” ose “LA PATENTE” , novela ne te cilat autori ne pak faqe pershkruan domethenien e ekzistences dhe te jetes se njeiut, ndetrimin e miteve dhe modeleve qe ai i rrezon vetem me pak faqe, duke na treguar boshllekun e jetes .
Çfare mednoni per kete shkrimtar?
 

Ema

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Re: LUIGI PIRANDELLO

Novelat Issi,novelat.
Jane ato qe me pelqejne me shume.Pastaj me pelqen nje pjese me titl:Heresia Katare.
Ndersa nga novelat nje e bere edhe film me xhina Lolobrigida.
 

romeo

Forumium maestatis
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eshte per te vleresuar edhe veprae tij teatrale ne pergjithesi, sidomos ne pjesen e dyte te prodhimit letrar ai iu kushtua pikerisht teatrit duke nxjerre kryevepra si "NJe, asnje dhe njeqind mije" ose "6 personazhe ne kerkim te autorit" :angel:
 

Rambla

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Re: LUIGI PIRANDELLO

para nje viti duhet te lexoja nje liber te nje autori italian a scelta. duke qene qe letersia italiane recente le pak per te deshiruar, vendosa te merrja nje liber te je autori qe vetem e kisha degjuar por mbi te cilin nuk kisha asnje njohuri. bleva "il fu mattia pascal", dhe ngela e habitur , ne menyre pozitive. nje nga librat me interesant qe kisha lexuar. pirandello eshte origjinal dhe kjo te ben unique. temat e tij jane pak a shume te njejtat, imposibiliteti te njohesh te tjeret, imposibiliteti i te tjereve te njohin ty, dhe pamundesia te njohesh veten (il relativismo conoscitivo), familja si trappola , la follia si menyre shpetimi etj. por origjinale tek ai nuk ishin temat sesa menyra e te shkruarit dhe sidomos revolucioni qe solli ne teater, menyra e te berit teater.

skam kohe :shrug: . vazhdoj me vone
 

^Res-Cogitans^

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Kam lexuar shume mbi te..."iL fu Mattia Pascal","Uno,nessuno e centomila","Sei personaggi in cerca d'autore","Così è se vi pare"...dhe disa opera teatrale qe s'me kujtohen ne kte moment.
Esht nje autor mjaft madheshtor ....komplimente per nenvizimin.
 

saimir08

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Romani vlersohet si me i miri ne leteraturen italiane 1900 deri ne lufetn e dyte botrore.
il fu mattia pascal.

Kurse i 1800 eshte i Ugo Foscolo ME ultime lettere di Jacopo Ortis.

ME GJITHE RESPKETIN E MADHE PER KTO AUTOR ITALIAN POR ME DUKET SIKUR NE FAQEN TUAJ TE LETERSISE MUNGOJNE SHUME ATUORE SHQIPTARE, BILES MUNGOJNE TE GJITHE, ATA QE KANE DHENE PER NE, SE SA PIRNADELLO ME SHOK.


PRANDAJ ATE PAK HAPSIRE QE NA ESHTE DHENE KETU NE FORUM PER TE HAPUR TEMA E SHPRHUR MENDIMIN TE PAKTEN TE JETE I PERPUTHSHEM SA ME SHUME ME IDENE JO TE ATDHETARIZMIT, POR ME NJOHJEN E AUTOREVE QE PER SHUME KOHE SHQIPTARET NUK KANE PATUR FATIN TI LEXOJNE.


ME RESPEKT
 

RecurrentDream

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Pershendetje Drini, tema eshte hapur nga Issi per Luigi Pirandellon dhe ketu mund te vazhdojme te diskutojme per te.

Nderkohe forumi letersia ne 4 faqet e tij, ka plot tema edhe per shkrimtare te tjere, te ftoj t'i lexosh dhe te diskutosh edhe aty.

Si dhe per shkak te bujarise se themeluesve te ketij forumi, ka hapesire plot per te hapur çdo lloj teme tjeter qe ti mendon se do te ngjalle interes, keshtu qe mos hezito /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif

:wave:
 

saimir08

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Nuk e vendos aspak ne dyshim bujarine tuaj.

ISHTE THJESHTE NJE SUGJERIM QE BERA UNE, NDOSHTA NUK ISHTE DHE FAQJA E PERSHTATSHME.

POR TA GARANTOJ QE KETE FORUM E NJOH SHUME MIRE.
 

Hey Joe

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po ju mer daje akoma me letersi te shekullit te kaluar merreni , dava pirandello qe edhe kur kena qene ne gjimnaz e kena pas bo , u bote i jete jashte shtetit ,ene akoma me merreni me dava gigi .

hajt shnet
 

zecovina

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MENDIMI TIM QE PIRANDELLO JA VLEN PER DISKUTIM...POR DUHET TE EKSISTOJNE DHE VETA QE VERTET NJOHIN PUNEN E TIJ...PERNDRYSHE ME MIRE TE SHIKOJNE TEMA QE JU AFROHEN ME TEPER.. :confused:
 

romeo

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Fillimisht postuar nga korcarokretanka:
[qb] MENDIMI TIM QE PIRANDELLO JA VLEN PER DISKUTIM...POR DUHET TE EKSISTOJNE DHE VETA QE VERTET NJOHIN PUNEN E TIJ...PERNDRYSHE ME MIRE TE SHIKOJNE TEMA QE JU AFROHEN ME TEPER.. :confused: [/qb]
mund te shkruash diçka. Pastaj mund te flasim /pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 

sauron

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Nga Pirandello kam lexuar vetem "Il Fu Mattia Pascal", liber qe me pelqeu jashte mase. Per kete hapa dhe temen "nga letersia italiane". Siç e kam thene dhe ne ate teme kete liber pata rastin ta lexoj ne anglisht, ne nje kurs universitar mbi letersine moderne italiane. Profesori na beri nje home-exam ku njera nga pyetjet kishte te bente me romanin ne fjale dhe ishte pak a shume "What does Pirandello's novel tell about religion and tradition, does it reject or ultimately reaffirm them?" Me poshte po dergoj dhe pergjigjen time, kuptohet ne anglisht, jo shume te gjate pasi megjithese ka shume gjera per te thene mbi kete isha i detyruar ta kufizoja me nje mije fjale. Shpresoj t'ju pelqeje.

“The Late Mattia Pascal” is a tragic novel. It is not tragic in the sense of misfortunes or other things in life that make it unbearable. It is not even an unhappy story of one’s life. One could even consider it a colourful, unusual life that if not for anything better is, at least, different, something that does not happen to everyone. The tragic lies in the philosophy of the text, the unsolved existential problem arised by it. The novel is essentially all about the argument between the narrator and Don Eligo at the second foreword on Copernicus’ discovery that it is not the sun that turns around the world but otherwise, that is, that man is not anymore the center of the universe. Narrator’s “reincarnation” through Adrian Meis first and then the Late Mattia Pascal is the path to wisdom, the enlightenment of his mind and the grasping of the truth. When he decides to give up Mattia Pascal for his succesor he does not merely change his look and his past but goes through a change inside. He becomes a new personality and feels as such. He rids himself of everything that would bound him to Mattia, eventually his eye too and constantly refers to his previous identity as someone else, forgotten, having nothing to do with the actual person. Thus he dares to make his step out of his warm (though not comfortable), narrow sorrounding, out of the shelter of ignorance and unawareness. He makes it without thinking much and with great hopes and the most important with the illusion of being free, not bound by anything in the world only to be convinced after two years that there is nothing such as freedom at all. Instead he finds himself bound to his former ego which follows him like a shadow and he ultimately understands that he is traped in Mattia Pascal and what identifies him, Miragno, his wife, mother-in-law for whom he feels a weird nostalgy, library and even creditors. By the difficult situations he experiences as Adrian Meis he comes to understand bitterly that getting out of that reality is impossible, that it mercilessly drags towards itself. So with much more eager and impatience does he return to his former life than when he had abandoned it. When he returns he behaves almost histerically in order, though maybe unaware of it, to convince himself that he is really Mattia Pascal. But there is a problem, he can not be who he was. People do not recognize him. Because of the circumstances he can’t enter again within the law. He can’t be the former Mattia Pascal because Mattia Pascal was ignorant, unaware, he was the man who the whole universe turns around, whereas he has looked beyond his little world to be terrified at the enormousness of the universe outside and has quickly run back to seek shelter in it again but with the realization that it is “an invisible spinning-top, whipped by a thread of sunlight, on a grain of crazed sand which turns and turns without ever knowing why”. This is the tragic picture of the existence that the text does present. In this picture religion and tradition belong to the initial world of Mattia Pascal, the world which people create around themselves in order to be the center of the universe. This view which Copernicus proved untrue was a religious doctrine and while the narrator refers to Copernicus he hints that not only the theory but religion itself was shaken by him. Religion and tradition are parts of the identity that man gives to himself. As such they are the unescapable reality that man tries to return to if he ever dares to abandon them because they give shelter and relief against the uncertainty that lies out of them. People belonging to them throw the books at the deconsecrated church which represents the religion denied and the absence of religion goes together with books that represent awareness and wisdom for which the citizens of Miragno don’t show the slightest interest. The narrator says this as a compliment to them. He envies them for their ignorance and wish he could be like them, having not gone through his odissey, but as he is the Late Mattia Pascal who has forever lost his identity and has gained a wisdom he doesn’t know what to do with, he physically also is trapped in that temple which has lost its sanctity and now bears a vast knowledge that serves for nothing to anyone. So the question whether this novel is against religion and tradition or not and if it does reaffirm it is the question of the whole story which the narrator leaves ambiguous. They are false parts of a false identity created by man but which in turn warm him and make his existence easier. To which side does the balance weigh is the tragic ambiguity left unanswered.
 

^Res-Cogitans^

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Drini_1 : Kurse i 1800 eshte i Ugo Foscolo ME ultime lettere di Jacopo Ortis.

Ke lexu noi her "Die Leiden des jungen Werther" nga Goethe?! Ku esht diferenca ?! Origjinalitet hesapi kto Taljont... '800 ka autor me te vlefshem!!!
Foscolo ka ber thjesht nje novatium ...duke embelsuar "fundin".
 
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arieta

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Nga Pirandello kam lexuar vetem "Il Fu Mattia Pascal", liber qe me pelqeu jashte mase. Per kete hapa dhe temen "nga letersia italiane". Siç e kam thene dhe ne ate teme kete liber pata rastin ta lexoj ne anglisht, ne nje kurs universitar mbi letersine moderne italiane. Profesori na beri nje home-exam ku njera nga pyetjet kishte te bente me romanin ne fjale dhe ishte pak a shume "What does Pirandello's novel tell about religion and tradition, does it reject or ultimately reaffirm them?" Me poshte po dergoj dhe pergjigjen time, kuptohet ne anglisht, jo shume te gjate pasi megjithese ka shume gjera per te thene mbi kete isha i detyruar ta kufizoja me nje mije fjale. Shpresoj t'ju pelqeje.

“The Late Mattia Pascal” is a tragic novel. It is not tragic in the sense of misfortunes or other things in life that make it unbearable. It is not even an unhappy story of one’s life. One could even consider it a colourful, unusual life that if not for anything better is, at least, different, something that does not happen to everyone. The tragic lies in the philosophy of the text, the unsolved existential problem arised by it. The novel is essentially all about the argument between the narrator and Don Eligo at the second foreword on Copernicus’ discovery that it is not the sun that turns around the world but otherwise, that is, that man is not anymore the center of the universe. Narrator’s “reincarnation” through Adrian Meis first and then the Late Mattia Pascal is the path to wisdom, the enlightenment of his mind and the grasping of the truth. When he decides to give up Mattia Pascal for his succesor he does not merely change his look and his past but goes through a change inside. He becomes a new personality and feels as such. He rids himself of everything that would bound him to Mattia, eventually his eye too and constantly refers to his previous identity as someone else, forgotten, having nothing to do with the actual person. Thus he dares to make his step out of his warm (though not comfortable), narrow sorrounding, out of the shelter of ignorance and unawareness. He makes it without thinking much and with great hopes and the most important with the illusion of being free, not bound by anything in the world only to be convinced after two years that there is nothing such as freedom at all. Instead he finds himself bound to his former ego which follows him like a shadow and he ultimately understands that he is traped in Mattia Pascal and what identifies him, Miragno, his wife, mother-in-law for whom he feels a weird nostalgy, library and even creditors. By the difficult situations he experiences as Adrian Meis he comes to understand bitterly that getting out of that reality is impossible, that it mercilessly drags towards itself. So with much more eager and impatience does he return to his former life than when he had abandoned it. When he returns he behaves almost histerically in order, though maybe unaware of it, to convince himself that he is really Mattia Pascal. But there is a problem, he can not be who he was. People do not recognize him. Because of the circumstances he can’t enter again within the law. He can’t be the former Mattia Pascal because Mattia Pascal was ignorant, unaware, he was the man who the whole universe turns around, whereas he has looked beyond his little world to be terrified at the enormousness of the universe outside and has quickly run back to seek shelter in it again but with the realization that it is “an invisible spinning-top, whipped by a thread of sunlight, on a grain of crazed sand which turns and turns without ever knowing why”. This is the tragic picture of the existence that the text does present. In this picture religion and tradition belong to the initial world of Mattia Pascal, the world which people create around themselves in order to be the center of the universe. This view which Copernicus proved untrue was a religious doctrine and while the narrator refers to Copernicus he hints that not only the theory but religion itself was shaken by him. Religion and tradition are parts of the identity that man gives to himself. As such they are the unescapable reality that man tries to return to if he ever dares to abandon them because they give shelter and relief against the uncertainty that lies out of them. People belonging to them throw the books at the deconsecrated church which represents the religion denied and the absence of religion goes together with books that represent awareness and wisdom for which the citizens of Miragno don’t show the slightest interest. The narrator says this as a compliment to them. He envies them for their ignorance and wish he could be like them, having not gone through his odissey, but as he is the Late Mattia Pascal who has forever lost his identity and has gained a wisdom he doesn’t know what to do with, he physically also is trapped in that temple which has lost its sanctity and now bears a vast knowledge that serves for nothing to anyone. So the question whether this novel is against religion and tradition or not and if it does reaffirm it is the question of the whole story which the narrator leaves ambiguous. They are false parts of a false identity created by man but which in turn warm him and make his existence easier. To which side does the balance weigh is the tragic ambiguity left unanswered.
 
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liamra

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shum shum bukur e ke shkru luigi pirandello te lumte mua me pelqen shum shum
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