Kadareja fut hundët në politikë

ilirjan

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O i VJETRI, o idiot plak, kur do te ngordhesh.

KADAREJA eshte fanar per kombin shqiptar.

Habitem pse nuk e kuptojne.
 

OROSHI

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Une mendoj qe;Ismail Kadare,duke qene shqiptar,duhet te marre pjese ne politiken shqiptare,ata qe e shajne ,mendoj qe nisen nga shkaqe fetare!!!!
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dilir

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Vlerat dhe meritat e Kadarese duhet te shihen ne kryeveprat qe ai ka shkruar,
politiken ne shqiperi po e bejne bastardet, kadareja eshte nje nga shkrimtaret me te medhenj modern europian
eshte larg politikes, dhe keshtu duhet te qendroje
 

Altin Gjoka

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Ismail Kadare is a sort of ayatollah
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of those idealists who trust him as a religious leader. Kadare doesn't understand that Albania has always been in Europe and doesn't need a former spy of 'Sigurimi' (Secret Service) to give the oldest people in the Balkans the green light to join officially an economic experiment which might end like former Yugoslavia or Soviet Union where the dominant nations crush smaller ones. Greeks think that Albania can join officially Europe only through Greece. Kadare thinks that Albania can join Europe after he wins the Nobel Prize for Literature. In his articles Kadare made clear he didn't really care whether Dardania is finally free from monstrous Slavs and Avars or if Albania is prosperous and free from communists like Fatos Nano and Sali Berisha both trained by communist secret service (in former Yugoslavia) to destroy any democratic movement in Albania. What Ismail Kadare cares the most is the image of Albanians. With his preaching against freedom movement of Albanians in Chameria (in Greece), Montenegro (Dalmatia), Macedonia and Kosovo (Dardania) Kadare is telling Albanians 'Wait please, don't make anything stupid until I get the Nobel Prize
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Bottom line - Kadare must visit a good psychiatrist to be cured once and for all from 'the Nobel Prize syndrome'
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. Like all diseases 'Nobel Prize syndrome' is a new plague that has afflicted mediocre writers. Everybody knows that this price is political and that real writers lived beyond their normal lifespan. Real geniuses were actually ignored by the elite and they were discovered after death. Great artists never fought for any price and they often died in poverty.

The fall of communism has been very tragic for Kadare.
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He mourns the attention the advertising campaign from the regime. He forgets that his books were read eagerly by Albanians because people were hungry for a change. Few people nowadays buy his books in Albania. They rot in bookshops because he beats the same drum. :rockband: Kadare is such a poor writer he doesn't even know how to build a dialogue. All characters use the same register and have no individuality. His personages in the book are a mere extensions of narrator's ego. He is boring.
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By idealizing the communist regime in his books he damaged the hopes of real dissidents who were shot dead, poisoned or imprisoned. His books were treated with curiosity in the Western World because he didn't describe Albania. Kadare wrote interesting guide books about adventures in Africa. Albanians in his books are revenge killers, ignorant highlanders or colorless people in an evil empire. <img src="/pf/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> Kadare has admitted himself that historical facts are not important to him. All his 'historical' books are distortions to the limits of calumny against those subspecies called Albanians. The truth is not important to him. Kadare depicts not people but cubistic caricatures. Kadare can write whatever he wants but why does he call the monsters or idiots in his books Albanians? He can write a book where a fiction and the plot can take place in Bangladesh or Mexico. If Kadare wants to be appreciated for artistic values he can stop describing Albanians and start plotting about prostitutes of Paris where he spent half of his life away from his wife and children.
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Then and only then we can talk about artistic values. I think Albanian Parliament must take a bipartisan decision to prohibit Kadare from writing about Albanians. In United States of America there is a law against slander. So Kadare must be prepared to spend one million dollars of his Nobel Prize to settle lawsuits with those highlanders he ridiculed in his books. Using Albanians as guinea-pigs in his books is a culpable as the communist regime engineering Albanian people.
 

thAci

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E para gje eshte mira te shkruani shqip!!!
per sa i perket Kadarese besoj se neve sna takon te flasim per te,eshte shume lart
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!! E per politiken shqiptare do ishte mire qe te degjonin pak mendimet e Kadarese,Qoses e te intelektualve te tjere te njohur shqiptare!!!
 

OROSHI

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Qoses????Apapapapapap,arianaspace,mos e ngaterro derrin me luanin <img src="/pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
 

RobertdeNiro

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Thone qe artistet (jo mediokret)jane avangarda e nje kombi.

Kadareja nuk eshte artist.

<span style="font-weight: bold">Kadare eshte GJENI</span>

Ndokujt i vjen keq, qe Kadare kritikoi djegiet e kishave Serbe,nga &quot;trima&quot; te cilet per vite me rralle ne mes te Gjermanise apo Zviceres benin shurren ne pantallona kur kujtonin milicin Serb &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt; .

Sa per &quot;Politike&quot;, mos na hapni zorret e barkut me kete fjale.Shqiptaret as kane bere dhe as do bejne edhe nja XY vjet ate sport aristokrat.

Prejardhja ime familjare eshte ashtu si e Kadarese,myslimane.
Edhe une i bashkohem mendimit te KADARESE :

Per sa kohe, Shqiperia do kete fene e pushtuesit 500 vjecar Turk (zot keq na ke denuar), per aq kohe ne nuk do futemi dot ne familjen Kristiano-Europiane.
 

Altin Gjoka

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Religion is not the problem of admitting Albania into European Union. The majority of Albanians were once Catholic once Greek orthodox. Then Albanians became formally Muslims.
Albanians can become Buddhists if China continues to grow so fast and become a superpower.
Religion has never played any role in Albanian life. Just for the record Christianity was introduced by an Albanian (or Illyrian if you like) who made a pledge to his army. If he won the battle with the Germans he would accept Christ as his savior. It was a strike of luck that he won so next day he was reborn as a Christian. If it weren't for this ignorant warrior with no credentials in theology and religious matters Christianity would have remained a marginalized sect as many others at the periphery of the empire.

The separation of the empire and Illyria into two parts East and West Albanians also owe to this moron and other Illyrian emperors who instead of protecting Illyria from Slavs and Huns fortified a new capital in Constantinople.
Hence it was Albanians who divided the empire like a cake because they were quarrelling among themselves who would inherit the throne. They divided once the empire into four parts. The blood of this suicidal leaders still flows in the veins of Fatos Nano and Sali Berisha.

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Let there be no doubt the only obstacle against the entrance of Albania in the European union are 1. the poverty of Albanians and their inability to fulfill the criteria of economic requirements for joining the club of the rich, 2. the territorial claims that neighbors have against poor Albania. Neither Italy nor Greece would like a strong Albania not mentioning the Serbs, Montenegrins Macedonians, countries which have illegally annexed more than half of Albanian territories. Europe doesn't want to be involved in territorial conflicts so even if Albania meets all the requirements to join EU it will take a long time until Albania is accepted if ever in EU. A new war with Serbia and Macedonia is looming around. Unfortunately Albanians are not prepared for the conflict. The only country which pretends to be our friend is our everlasting enemy Turkey. We protected Europe from Turkey and Turkey now is our hypocrite friend. During the European song contest in Eurovision Turkey gave us no votes. In politics Turkey has not given us any votes either. Being associated to Turkey is our greatest tragedy. So who is Albania's friend? It might seem ridiculous but United States are the only supporter of Albania. It was America which saved Albania from being chopped off by voracious neighbors. Austria needs Albania for a safe passage into Adriatic Sea to boast its trade. Greece has always been dreaming about southern Albania. Serbia wants Albania dead and Macedonia is struggling to ethnically cleanse Albanians.
For Italy European Union is a bad copy of its old Roman Empire.


American Albanians have been pushed away by the jealous and pro Serbian communist regime. Sali Berisha who is a former communist did everything to keep Albanians of Diaspora away. Let us remember that the Jewish state in Palestine not only was built with the money of American Jews but every year the Jewish state officially receives 4,5 billion dollars by the American government and a lot of military aid. Albania could be rebuilt in the same way as the Semitic state. Albania has a strong American partner what matters is only trade and a strong military. If Albanians wait for Europe to admit them in their miserable sate they have to wait until some meteorite hits our continent and destroys Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Macedonia (also Hungary, Poland, Czech, Slovakia and all Slavs who loathe Albania) - a kind of dinosaur extinction style. Otherwise it ain't gonna happen.

Why should America help Albania? Apart from being (together with Greek) the oldest culture in Europe, Albania (Illyria) blended with another old culture Semitic.
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Actually Cadmos ruled in Illyria and his son Illyrus became the ruler of all Albanians. Cadmus introduced Phoenician alphabet in Illyria, then Greeks copied it from them. Hence the foundation of European civilization was in Illyria. Only the creation of alphabet, recorded art and religion allowed Indo Europeans to evolve and become the dominant trace of the earth. If it weren't the alphabet Indo Europeans would have remained in their mud huts and hunt wild animals like Indians in America, indigenous people in Australia and the old ancestors in Africa.

Clearly the Jews in America will like the idea that their ancestors planted the seeds of civilization in Illyria. This is our only hope for a revival of Albania.
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A second reason why America might love Albania is that Europe is getting married with Slavs. In the new Europe Slavs would make almost half of population of Europe. Even if Albania joined Europe it would be soon flooded with Slavs or become marginalized completely.

The war in Iraq was the war for oil not for weapons of mass distraction. If America is getting lion's share of oil in Middle East, Europe is looking towards Russia as the last resort of energy. But Russia is the old friend of Serbs. &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/mad.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt; Therefore Albania is again a loser in geo-politics.

America doesn't like this kissing and hugging of French and Russians. Speaking of jealousy Othello killed his own angel Desdemona. So Americans aren't going to spare anyone who gets on their way as a hyper power.

Serbia is the strongest friend of China - the new kid in the block. China has become the greatest immediate danger to American interests in the world. China sends new satellites in space, builds thermonuclear weapons, supports North Korea. It is a country with 1,2 billion people. China's economy is booming at 8% a year &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt; leaving other trailing behind. So America has good reasons to be fearful of China. Consequently the Chinese - Serbian friendship is another thorn in the eye of political elite in Washington.

For all those reasons poor Albania is the ideal partner for Americans in Europe. Because America doesn't share any borders with Albania and our country has no vital energy resources American interests will never cross Albanian goals.
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OROSHI

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Me qa kuptoj une (nga ajo Anglishtja ime e cale)e ka mire ky miku,por do ishte me mire po te shkruante shqip,apo mos eshte ndonje Anglo-Amerikan qe adhuron shqiptaret!!!
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Kondrapedali

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Edhe me ça kuptoj unë mirë e ka ajo/ai po s'e mora vesh ç'lidhje kishte me Kadarenë?! Dhe më duket se është shqiptare e lindur në Sh.B.A d.m.th diasporë e formuar mirë se edhe në diskutime don të ngrejë punën e diasporës, sidomos asaj të Sh.B.A.
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OROSHI

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Me qa mora vesht une nga thashethemet(por populli thote se:ku ka tym,s'eshte pa zjarr)Pokorny eshte nje grua e leshuar nga burri i saj Serb,mbasi ajo nuk i kishte treguar te verteten per origjinen e saj shqiptare,dhe ajo po mundohet qe,,ta shfaqe ketu ne nje forum shqiptare gjith inatin qe ka ndaj ish-burrit te saj serb!!! &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;
Nuk e di a kane femije bashke,do mundohem ta zbuloj
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Kondrapedali

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E randë kjo fjal Orosh! Nse ka fmij ishalla po ia del n'anë!

(sa të shpejt pasket qenë me u përgjigj?!) &lt;img src=&quot;/pf/images/graemlins/laugh.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;
 

komino

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Isaac Newton
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Shkruajtur më 10 Qershor, 2004 23:23
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Thone qe artistet (jo mediokret)jane avangarda e nje kombi.

Kadareja nuk eshte artist.

Kadare eshte GJENI

Ndokujt i vjen keq, qe Kadare kritikoi djegiet e kishave Serbe,nga &quot;trima&quot; te cilet per vite me rralle ne mes te Gjermanise apo Zviceres benin shurren ne pantallona kur kujtonin milicin Serb .

Sa per &quot;Politike&quot;, mos na hapni zorret e barkut me kete fjale.Shqiptaret as kane bere dhe as do bejne edhe nja XY vjet ate sport aristokrat.

Prejardhja ime familjare eshte ashtu si e Kadarese,myslimane.
Edhe une i bashkohem mendimit te KADARESE :

Per sa kohe, Shqiperia do kete fene e pushtuesit 500 vjecar Turk (zot keq na ke denuar), per aq kohe ne nuk do futemi dot ne familjen Kristiano-Europiane.
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(sa rralle qe jemi dakort
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vetem se une nuk do te bazoja asnje strategji tek feja - shqipetaret ne shpirt jane vetem shqipetare dhe jo muslimane apo te krishtere apo te tjere.
 

ARTAN GJELI

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A ka qene I Ismail Kandari qe pate thene qe Skenderbeu ka qene asgje tjeter vecse nje hajdut kuajsh?-- A nuk ka qene Kandari ai qe ka thene per kosovaret se nuk dine se ceshte lufta e ceshte paqja?---por vete ai nuk dinte se si te ofronte ndonje ide me te mire,pa perfshire ketu e dhe cmimin Nobel,qe mesa shoh une ka per te qene gjithmone kandidat por qe nuk ka per ta fituar ate kurre. A i leshterik me gjethe fiku kujton se Nobel-in e fitojne ata qe bejne vepra duke share kombin e tij.
E pra i vetmi ne bote qe enderron nje version te tille eshte Ismail the Great Kandari.

Oniro.uk
 

militanti1980

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Nje njeri qe ka aq shume fame, dhe qe degjohet nga shume shqiptare (siç eshte rasti i Kadarese) nuk duhet te flase, para se te mendoj.
Sepse ato fjale te tille shpeshhere keqkuptohen apo keqperderdoren nga shume individe dhe politikane.

Aj shpshhere e keqperdor famen e tij dhe ben ca shprehje ofenduese ndaj popujve te tjere, vetem per te qene i popullarizuar tek shqiptaret dhe per te fituar me shume simpatizante. Kadareja me duket mua si nje populiste ala Silvio Berlusconi.
 

komino

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aman vetem me berluskonin mos e krahasoni se nuk ka ofendim me te madh per nje njeri te atij niveli


ne kohen e skenderbeut te gjithe ishin &quot;hajdute kuajsh&quot; (ishte periudha historike e tille kur luftohej pak per ideal dhe shume per te rrembyer gjene e tjetrit apo te mbrojtur gjene tende)
kjo nuk i heq asnje vlere Gjergj Kastriotit

Populli i kosoves nuk ka nevoje qe t'ia thote kadareja se nuk di c'eshte lufta e c'eshte paqja. (mendo ngjarjet e mitrovices dhe demin qe i sollen kosoves)Ne fakt, asnje popull nuk e di kete dhe jane udheheqesit ata qe dueht t'ua mesojne e kujtojne here pas here (nese populli nuk e di atehere faji eshte i udheheqesve qe kane zene vendet kot - qofte ne kosove apo ne shqiperi - populli i kosove ka te drejte te jete i orientuar drejt luftes sepse ne shekuj ka qene i detyruar).

cdo njeri ka te drejte shprehe mendimet e tij nese nuk cenon te drejtat e dikutj tjeter.
Mua me duket se kritikat e kadarese, megjithese te shprehura pa diplomaci(ai nuk eshte politikan dhe nuk po pretendon te perfaqesoje askend), jane te vlefshme.
 

dalmat veneti

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Per mua, vetem pretendimi i tij qe te fitoj cmimin nobel e ben mendjemadh. Shkrimatari shkruan sepse ashtu shpreh veten, nuk shkruan qe te fitoj dicka. Pastaj, artistet e vertete nuk merren me politike dhe keshtu gjerash. Kjo tregon qe Kadare nuk eshte aq artist i madh sesa e bejne ca te tjere. Pastaj, shumices i ka pelqyer Kadareja ngaqe vetem librat e tij lexoheshin atehere. Tani besoj se pak veta e lexojne akoma ate.
 
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