Coon on Dorian, Macedonian, Albanian relationship
Illyrians as Dorians</p>
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Carleton S. Coon found a connection between the Illyrians and the Dorians based on his anthropological analyses of the Albanian and Montenegrin population as well as the Sfakian population in Crete. Coon discovered that Montenegro and Albania is highly concentrated Illyrian racial zone and that the Sfakians are directly descended from Doric tribes that invaded Crete from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria. Moreover, he discovered that Albanians, Montenegrins and Sfakians shared many similarities in stature, appearance, language, national costume, belligerent tendencies, tribal orders, and vendettas.</p>
Illyrians and their history is in fact history of today’s people of Dinaric region (Western Balkans) who are not of Slavic origin but of Illyrian.</p>
Connection between Dorians and south Illyrians can be drawn by the fact that the first recorded ruler of Illyrians was called Hyllus whom in the Hellenic mythology was also son of Heraklidis (Hercules) whom Dorians considered as their ancestor hense their term ‘return of Heraklidis’ for their invasion of Greece.</p>
Montenegro is the purest Illyrian racial zone while the purest Dorian racial zone is the tribe Sfakia which lives in the southwest part of the island Crete and are the descendants of Dorian invasion of Greece from around 1000 BC which came from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria. In the book ‘The races of Europe’ ( written 1939 ) the great racial anthropologist Charleston Stevens Coon clearly compared Montenegrins to Sfakia. Montenegrins in their speech have thousands of Hellenic words which are mainly connected to village and house. Even the name for the national Montenegrin dance ‘oro’ comes from Hellenic ‘horo’ which means ‘dance’.</p>
The real Slavs are classified as so called “Neodanubian” which is dominant in Ukraine, White Russia, Poland, West Russia and it exists in Panonia and Slovenia or north part of former S.F.R. Yugoslavia (although in our region it is in dinarized form).</p>
Dinaric type in different countries means different origin (according to racial anthropology and history the conclusion is that Illyrians, Venets from N. Italy, and at least partically Dorians, Macedonians and Phrygians were all of Dinaric race and thus related to each other).</p>
Venets from North Italy (who are of Illyrian origin) and Venets or Wends from Eastern Europe (Baltic race) are not of the same origin since they are not of the same race (they neither have same culture nor language) and outside of the name have no similarity (also the names appear at the different time frames ). Name is of Latin origin (Venetus -Blue in Latin ).</p>
Dorian Greeks settled in Illyria before 2000BC and the center of Dorians were Epirus and Macedonia. Ancient writer Strabo states that culture, religion, tunics, language of southern Illyrians (and Vrygians) is very similar to Epirotes and Macedonians thus making Southern Illyrians of clearly Hellenistic nature.</p>
Dorians called themselves “Makednos” what in ancient Hellenic meant ‘tall, warlike highlander ‘ and Macedonia was named after them. Other Hellenic nations were Mycenaeans, Ionians, Aeolians, Acheans,etc. Dorians were very tall and very warlike. Ancient pictures of Dorian Spartans contained in them warriors with dark hair with reddish tone.</p>
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Also they had tribal order, blood feuds, and possessed ‘lyra’. (it is possible that the region Illyria was named after lyra and first time the name Illyria was mentioned was in 4 – th century BC).</p>
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According to Hellenic mythology name Illyrians is derived from the son of Cadmus and Harmonia – Illyrius. The ruler of Dorians represented both a spiritual leader and a military leader. According to the legend Dorians got their name from one of the Helen’s sons called Dorus. Some of the Dorians attacked South Greece from the direction of Macedonia, south Illyria and Epirus in 12 and 11 cen.BC . They took islands of Crete, Dodecanese and other Aegean islands also Lakonia, Argolis, and Korintos in the Peloponesos peninsula. Famous Sparta was a Doric settlement.</p>
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In the ancient Hellenic legend the Dorian invasion of Peloponesus happened around 1104 BC although now it is accepted by most historians that it accured rather in 12, 11cen. BC or even earlier. In the ancient legend the Dorian invasion was called ‘return of Hercules’ since according to the legend Dorians were looked at as descendants of Hercules (or Heraklidis as pronounced in Hellenic ).</p>
South Illyrians (original Illyrians, Ardideans, belong to southern Illyrians) are descendants of earlier Dorians and first time are mentioned in recorded history in 4 cen.BC. Modern history informs us that the earliest Illyrian ruler was called Hylus who lived around 12 cen.BC. His name is identical with the name of one of the major three Dorian tribes which invaded south Greece from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria in the same time frame (12,11cen.BC). Ancient Macedonians considered Illyrians and Thracians as their close kin.</p>
CONCLUSION</p>
The biggest proof that Dorians, Illyrians and Dinaric people are one unit is in comparing the Dorian tribe Sfakia in SW Crete with Montenegrins, who are in so many ways are similar (stature, appearance, national custome, warlikeness, tribal order, vendettas ). The racial relation between Montenegrins and Sfakia was also mentioned in a book called ‘Races of Europe’ written by Coon in 1939 where he also writes about the racial connection between Slavs, Balts, and Germanics.</p>
Per me shume artikuj te ngjashem vizitoni: http://www.albpelasgian.com/?p=202
Illyrians as Dorians</p>

Carleton S. Coon found a connection between the Illyrians and the Dorians based on his anthropological analyses of the Albanian and Montenegrin population as well as the Sfakian population in Crete. Coon discovered that Montenegro and Albania is highly concentrated Illyrian racial zone and that the Sfakians are directly descended from Doric tribes that invaded Crete from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria. Moreover, he discovered that Albanians, Montenegrins and Sfakians shared many similarities in stature, appearance, language, national costume, belligerent tendencies, tribal orders, and vendettas.</p>
Illyrians and their history is in fact history of today’s people of Dinaric region (Western Balkans) who are not of Slavic origin but of Illyrian.</p>
Connection between Dorians and south Illyrians can be drawn by the fact that the first recorded ruler of Illyrians was called Hyllus whom in the Hellenic mythology was also son of Heraklidis (Hercules) whom Dorians considered as their ancestor hense their term ‘return of Heraklidis’ for their invasion of Greece.</p>
Montenegro is the purest Illyrian racial zone while the purest Dorian racial zone is the tribe Sfakia which lives in the southwest part of the island Crete and are the descendants of Dorian invasion of Greece from around 1000 BC which came from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria. In the book ‘The races of Europe’ ( written 1939 ) the great racial anthropologist Charleston Stevens Coon clearly compared Montenegrins to Sfakia. Montenegrins in their speech have thousands of Hellenic words which are mainly connected to village and house. Even the name for the national Montenegrin dance ‘oro’ comes from Hellenic ‘horo’ which means ‘dance’.</p>
The real Slavs are classified as so called “Neodanubian” which is dominant in Ukraine, White Russia, Poland, West Russia and it exists in Panonia and Slovenia or north part of former S.F.R. Yugoslavia (although in our region it is in dinarized form).</p>
Dinaric type in different countries means different origin (according to racial anthropology and history the conclusion is that Illyrians, Venets from N. Italy, and at least partically Dorians, Macedonians and Phrygians were all of Dinaric race and thus related to each other).</p>
Venets from North Italy (who are of Illyrian origin) and Venets or Wends from Eastern Europe (Baltic race) are not of the same origin since they are not of the same race (they neither have same culture nor language) and outside of the name have no similarity (also the names appear at the different time frames ). Name is of Latin origin (Venetus -Blue in Latin ).</p>
Dorian Greeks settled in Illyria before 2000BC and the center of Dorians were Epirus and Macedonia. Ancient writer Strabo states that culture, religion, tunics, language of southern Illyrians (and Vrygians) is very similar to Epirotes and Macedonians thus making Southern Illyrians of clearly Hellenistic nature.</p>
Dorians called themselves “Makednos” what in ancient Hellenic meant ‘tall, warlike highlander ‘ and Macedonia was named after them. Other Hellenic nations were Mycenaeans, Ionians, Aeolians, Acheans,etc. Dorians were very tall and very warlike. Ancient pictures of Dorian Spartans contained in them warriors with dark hair with reddish tone.</p>

Also they had tribal order, blood feuds, and possessed ‘lyra’. (it is possible that the region Illyria was named after lyra and first time the name Illyria was mentioned was in 4 – th century BC).</p>


According to Hellenic mythology name Illyrians is derived from the son of Cadmus and Harmonia – Illyrius. The ruler of Dorians represented both a spiritual leader and a military leader. According to the legend Dorians got their name from one of the Helen’s sons called Dorus. Some of the Dorians attacked South Greece from the direction of Macedonia, south Illyria and Epirus in 12 and 11 cen.BC . They took islands of Crete, Dodecanese and other Aegean islands also Lakonia, Argolis, and Korintos in the Peloponesos peninsula. Famous Sparta was a Doric settlement.</p>

In the ancient Hellenic legend the Dorian invasion of Peloponesus happened around 1104 BC although now it is accepted by most historians that it accured rather in 12, 11cen. BC or even earlier. In the ancient legend the Dorian invasion was called ‘return of Hercules’ since according to the legend Dorians were looked at as descendants of Hercules (or Heraklidis as pronounced in Hellenic ).</p>
South Illyrians (original Illyrians, Ardideans, belong to southern Illyrians) are descendants of earlier Dorians and first time are mentioned in recorded history in 4 cen.BC. Modern history informs us that the earliest Illyrian ruler was called Hylus who lived around 12 cen.BC. His name is identical with the name of one of the major three Dorian tribes which invaded south Greece from the direction of Macedonia and Illyria in the same time frame (12,11cen.BC). Ancient Macedonians considered Illyrians and Thracians as their close kin.</p>
CONCLUSION</p>
The biggest proof that Dorians, Illyrians and Dinaric people are one unit is in comparing the Dorian tribe Sfakia in SW Crete with Montenegrins, who are in so many ways are similar (stature, appearance, national custome, warlikeness, tribal order, vendettas ). The racial relation between Montenegrins and Sfakia was also mentioned in a book called ‘Races of Europe’ written by Coon in 1939 where he also writes about the racial connection between Slavs, Balts, and Germanics.</p>
Per me shume artikuj te ngjashem vizitoni: http://www.albpelasgian.com/?p=202